Frustrated Prosecutor Dusek Swats At Final Bug Expert: Westerfield's Soon Will BUG The Jury....

Court TV ^ | August 2, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

[hoosiermama]

FUNNY JJ! LOL

[shezza]

Blowfly pie and apple pandowdy
Makes the bug guys smile
And the jackals all rowdy,
Blowfly pie and apple pandowdy,
Can't get enough of that wonderful stuff!

[juzcuz]

Buggz

I think Dusek, in his summation, will want to dismiss Goff, Haskell, Faulkner, and Hall. I think he'll use Blackbourne and Wecht to try to prove the others as unreliable. The problem with this is, that Blackbourne and Wecht left the latest date of Feb. 16 open as a possible exposure date. I don't think he'll use Rodriquez at all.

So far we have: Rodriquez- Jan.16 - Feb.6 Anthro.
Blackbourne- Feb. 1 - Feb.16 Path.
Wecht- Feb. 1 - Feb.16 Path.
Goff- Feb. 9 - Feb.14 Ento.
Haskell- Feb.11 - Feb.21 Ento.
Faulkner- Feb.16 - Feb.18 Ento.
Hall- Feb.12 - Feb.23 Ento.

If Feldman stands on Feb. 16 as the latest exposure date then he has on his side : Blackbourne, Wecht, Goff, Haskell, Faulkner, and Hall. Six to nothing in scientific favor of DW's innocence.

[juzcuz]

Correction: If Feldman stands on Feb. 14- then he has 6-0 favor.

[shezza]

Six to nothing in scientific favor of DW's innocence.

Pretty good odds, even if Goff is doing the math.

Compare that to no known source for ANY of the fibers, and the high probability that the blue-gray could have come from a vehicle upholstery (like a cop car), spread by one of the investigators from place to place to place as they did the repeated searches. Fibers were collected on several occasions for up to four months (weren't some SUV fibers collected in June?). How can they all possibly be from DAW only considering how many people were at all the sites?

Compare that to no scent or cadaver dogs hitting on either Danielle's scent in the motorhome or SUV OR Westerfield's scent in the VD residence.

Compare that to the huge amount of unexplained evidence that can't be linked to DAW, like the unidentified prints on the VD doors and the bannister and in Danielle's room. And the unidentified DNA on Danielle's bedsheets. And the unidentified prints in the motorhome. And the unidentified red and green and blue fibers on Danielle's body and in her hair and under her nails. And the unidentified black hair found on her body which was not DAW's. And the unidentified hairs from dozens of different people in the motorhome. And the complete and utter lack of ANYTHING of DAW's, fingerprints or hair or scent or DNA or footprints, anywhere near the VD property.

Compare that to the timelines and alibis that keep changing in the VD household. Damon's unsubstantiated and zig-zag trip into the desert on Feb. 16. The mystery dog bed. The disappearing Van Dam Damn Van.

And what are the odds that the jury will collectively possess reasonable doubt? I think some will be stuck on the porn so firmly that no other evidence, all six bug guys included, could sway them from their belief that DAW is guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt.

[cyncooper]

(weren't some SUV fibers collected in June?).

No, collected in Feb., examined July 2.

From Tanya Dulaney July 9:

Q FIRST OF ALL, DID YOU HAVE ANY INVOLVEMENT IN THE TAKING OF THOSE TAPE LIFTS?

A YES. I COLLECTED THOSE TAPE LIFTS WHEN I FIRST WENT INTO THE MOTOR HOME AND DID MY INITIAL EXAMINATION.

Q WHEN WAS THAT? WHEN DID YOU COLLECT THESE TAPE LIFTS?

A I BELIEVE THAT WAS FEBRUARY 6TH.

-end excerpt.-

The hair on her body under her arm was determined to be similar with her own.

The dark hair you may be thinking of was found in the soil under her body.

Also, was the search dogs not hitting presented to the jury? I've been asking for that testimony. Any help on finding it would be appreciated.

[dread78645]

> (weren't some SUV fibers collected in June?).

...
A YES. I COLLECTED THOSE TAPE LIFTS WHEN I FIRST WENT INTO THE MOTOR HOME AND DID MY INITIAL EXAMINATION.

The SUV testimony was objected to by the pros. (June 25th IIRC); after a sidebar, it wasn't brought up again.

[clearvision]

If I remember right, it was on cross and pros. objected. I assume it was sustained because at that time witness had not brought up SUV at all.

[clearvision]

Interesting on negative dog searches being known to jury. Prosecution would not have brought up negative searches of VD house, SUV, DW house. I don't recall any defense witnesses on dogs. If it came out on cross I don't remember it. When 180frank was on stand I think discussion was only on motorhome, could Feldman have even brought up other searches at that point?

[John Jamieson]

Goff actually did 4 different runs with two sets of weather data and two different lab test results. The three others were even closer to the other guys.

I like Feb 14th because that's when the Poway porn ring guy realized he was going to be arrested (midnight on the 15th was the actual time) and figured he better get rid of any spare bodies lying around.

[cyncooper]

You're right, the part I posted was from the MH. I'll go see if the SUV tape lift date is in there.

[juzcuz]

I don't know the odds of porn evidence. I've stayed away from the porn evidence. I'm not drawn to it, I've considered it. Yet, I was always more curious about the fibers, DNA, testimonial conflicts, time lines,etc., I can't explain why it's that way with me.

But the recent abductions occuring in this country, I think, will have a significant influence on the jury. The odds of the media impact on the jury? I haven't thought about it long enough.

I know I sit here with a notebook, When I have a question, I write it down, and sometimes/ a lot of times, post it. I hope the jury is sitting there with a notebooks,pencils and lots of questions instead of falling asleep.

You might be right, the porn evidence may out way the science, in the minds of the jury, who knows what they could be thinking..

[cyncooper]

The reason I ask about the search dogs (as opposed to cadaver dogs) is the jury can only consider what is presented at trial, so if it was not (and it may have been---that's why I'm wondering) they cannot consider it in their deliberations.

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[cyncooper]

Ok, here is where she discusses examining the tape lifts from the SUV. I'm still looking for an exact date the lifts were done:

16 A. WHEN I EXAMINED THE ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE S. U. V., MY INITIAL EXAMINATION I BELIEVE WAS IN FEBRUARY, THE END OF FEBRUARY. WHEN I WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THOSE TAPE LIFTS A SECOND TIME, THAT EXAMINATION WAS IN JULY.

[Jrabbit]

Just got here and can't quit laughing!!! What talent! Thanks for starting my day with humor!! "Dusek cracks up and I don't care".....LOL!!!!!!!!!

[dread78645]

I think I've found the "liar".

Duh-knees.
Police interview(s) vs. testimony.
Didn't remember meeting Westerfield at the bar vs. "he was creepy".
Damon didn't come downstairs vs. he ate pizza with us.

[shezza]

Thanks for that. I was confused in that I thought they went back and collected more fibers even after the trial started. Appreciate you looking it up in the transcripts!

[cyncooper]

I meant to address #35 to you, too.

Re: J. Shen July 9 testimony about SUV evidence.

[John Jamieson]

You've certainly got one of the major ones, but I think the important one may be Neal.