Prosecution's Bug Expert Struggles On Stand:08/01/2002 Westefield Trial Nears Finish Lap!

Court TV ^ | August 1, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

[John Jamieson]

The two girls were raped, perp tried, convicted, and executed this afternoon.

Baby found in car, in Mexico, OK.

[alexandria]

I am confused. That is where I saw it, and copied it from.

If I'm not mistaken the comment was made to a post of mine. It might have been on one of the first Samantha R. threads.
I was pointing out how the dates the bodies were dumped were on the same day of the month, along with both found nude, near a tree, near a long streach of road with a turnout, etc...

[Spunky]

I wonder why time is even being spent in court talking about the drag marks if they are random & caused by animals?

Because if I remember correctly at one time there was speculation that the crime scene had been tampered with. Some dectective in a preliminary hearing had said the drag marks were from the body being moved. He never put this in his notes though.

[I. Ben Hurt]

I think DNA tests showed Brenda and Damon were the biological parents of all three kids.

[Jrabbit]

You know, water would have tangled her hair re: the clump of hair with the fiber. I guess hot water would cause dehydration, but the ME said she didn't drown. Can you die from the heat of the water, like a scald?

[demsux]

My biggest worry is that porn emotion will overcome all logic. I also think it's the biggest issue for appeal, if it comes to that.

Still seems hard to believe, to me, that he can be convicted of a crime unrelated to the crime that brought about the search warrants.

What if they found weed, coke or something of that sort...could he be charged and convicted, even though the warrants were for kidnapping/murder?

[Jrabbit]

Thanks for the info, John. Didn't know the poor girls were raped. Glad they killed him. Good news on the baby!

[John Jamieson]

I don't think it was stated quite that clearly, but I do think that some aspects or relationships are being withheld from us. This trial has a lot of loose ends. We also have atleast one admitted lier and one felon who have given testimony. We just don't know who they are yet. Mudd is saving that for jury instructions.

[fatima]

John,We pray,Our Father who art in heaven,

[John Jamieson]

I second the emotion.

[demsux]

one admitted lier

There are at least two admitted liars that I'm aware of...and they are both prosecution witnesses, DVD and BVD.

The one's that haven't admitted yet are: Denise Kemal, Rich Brady, Keith Stone.

Two haven't had the opportunity to lie, yet: Barbara Easton and Bill Libby.

[John Jamieson]

It might have been Neal, especially since it's been admitted to the judge.

[John Jamieson]

I think Barb's willingness to tell the truth, is why we haven't heard from her! What a twist!

[demsux]

You're right, I was only pointing out the additional "untruthful" players.

[fatima]

If you focus on the child it is not and she is dead, help find her killer.

[John Jamieson]

Isn't judge Mudd famous for totally ignoring a jury verdict at some point in his career?

[I. Ben Hurt]

I'm sure you're absolutely correct about info being withheld. I wish I could remember where I read about the DNA tests. Also agree that Damon didn't care much for his daughter and suspect Brenda wasn't all that fond of her either. That little girl deserved better.

[FresnoDA]

(Sorry I am so tardy...been a long day...but now, it will be a LONG NIGHT for you!!)

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Major ritual "sabbat" dates on the Occult/Witchcraft/Satanism calendar.

This date sticks out....February 2, 2002    Danielle Van Dam, Age 7

 

DATE: October 31 NAME: *SAMHAIN; ALL HALLOWS' EVE; HALLOWEEN; NOVEMBER EVE WITCHCRAFT: Rituals to contact the dead SATANISTS: Sexual and blood rituals with animal or humans & animal or human sacrifice

DATE: December 21/22 NAME: YULE; WINTER SOLSTICE; WITCHCRAFT: Rituals celebrating the rebirth of the sun SATANISTS: Sexual rituals, animal or human

DATE: February 2 NAME: IMBOLIC; IMBOK; CANDLEMAS; OIMELE; LADY DAY; BRIGID DAY WITCHCRAFT: Sexual rituals; Celtic triple goddess Brigid honored. SATANISM: Sexual rituals, human

DATE: MARCH 20/21 NAME: Spring Equinox; Vernal Equinox WITCHCRAFT: This is a fertility sabbat. Pagans celebrate the coming of fertility of the earth; Sexual rituals celebrated by various groups. SATANISM: Orgies held; Animal or human sacrifices

DATE: April 30 NAME: *BELTANE; MAY EVE; ROODMAS DAY; WALPURGISNACHT WITCHCRAFT: Rituals focusing on the love between male & female. In fact, many pagan handcastings (weddings) take place at this sabbat. Rituals celebrating the fertility of the Mother Goddess (Earth) are carried out. SATANISTS: Blood rituals; Animal or human sacrifices

DATE: JUNE 21 NAME: SUMMER SOLSTICE; MIDSUMMER'S EVE; WITCHES: Bonfire rituals SATANISTS: Orgies; Animal or human sacrifices

DATE: AUGUST 1 NAME: LUGNASADH (Named for Celtic Solar god Lugh);LAMMAS DAY WITCHES: Harvest rituals SATANISTS: Animal or Human sacrifice

DATE: SEPTEMBER 21 to 23 (Date varies annually) NAME: AUTUMN EQUINOX WITCHES: Some covens have rituals reenacting Pluto or Hades (grim god of death) forcefully carrying of Persephone (young goddess of life) to the underworld. SATANISTS: Sexual orgies and or animal and human sacrifice.

[demsux]

You lucky pup

[I. Ben Hurt]

Excuse me!! Boy that got my attention. Is this the "more powerful than a confession" (improvised) that we've been hearing about? Please tell us more! I've read everything I can about this case but still other people have so much more information.