Prosecution's Bug Expert Struggles On Stand:08/01/2002 Westefield Trial Nears Finish Lap!

Court TV ^ | August 1, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

[Ditter]

Feldman should ask the dog handlers if the dogs reacted to the drag marks. This witness didn't notice. Even my chow hounds (JackRusselTerrier's) would notice the smell of decomposing flesh. I don't know what difference the drag marks make if they are made by animals dragging off parts.

[John Jamieson]

Not yet. We have atleast a week yet to solve this case. We'll be that much further ahead than the state when DW walks. Then we figure out which one of the SD porno production ring dumped the body in mid Feb. It's a shame, so much evidence has been destroyed in the DW witch hunt.

I've got to wonder if DW knows who did this.

[BARLF]

And throughout it all nothing fits! That is what drives me nuts.

[fatima]

Hi CYN,

workin 6 days but try to keep up at night,we need to hear your voice,fatima

[BARLF]

ststed? stated

[demsux]

shezza is going to help transcribe now..click link to catch up.

I'm way back here, catching up...appreciate your efforts.

BTW, the RAMS looked awesome...Warner, Faulk, Bruce, etal. They are going all the way this year.

It was over 100 degrees and humid...took a three hour drive with the AC blasting the whole way to cool down

[cyncooper]

Entrails (intestines) would leave the marks.

The body was dried so the odor not as strong as you would expect and the unusual insect activity.

The animals did not open up the body until later, so the drag marks would be made more recently than the body laying there.

[sunshine state]

"transcript fatigue" = "fourth instar"

LOL!

[cyncooper]

Feldman should ask the dog handlers if the dogs reacted to the drag marks. This witness didn't notice.

I read further into Dusek's cross-exam and the witness did state that he wasn't there to observe the dog handlers and the dogs' reactions, so you have a great point and Dusek brought it out.

[bvw]

The lunacy is how the public misses the most likely suspects -- the parents themselves. The parents are suspect at least as passive accomplices, like the recent case in St Louis, where the killer street bum hung with the Dad drinking the night before.

As to why some in the media is so hard on Westerfield is easy enough -- after all he is a working middle-class middle-aged white male, and members of that class are the media's most fave targets even in the most flimsy circumstance.

But they, the media, are even more adamant about and sucessful in circling the wagons around the two who should have been the most investigated and examined subjects -- little Danielle's own mother and father, Barbara and Damon Van Dam.

That is lunacy -- like the stock market has clearly shown how lunatic to the point of extreme carelessness and recklessness the great mass of the public can be -- now there in San Diego yet another great public madness continues. G-d bless the jury that can be sane in the face of it, careful where wanton carelessness is the general say, dutiful and steadfast where a meanhearted recklessness blows like a great wind.

[John Jamieson]

With DW on trial for his life on this evidence, one has to wonder why Gary Condit is still walking around loose.

[clearvision]

Orange fibers again.
With the relatively large number of orange fibers found on DW's things, I am struggling with how he could not know the source. I would think defense would have done everything in their power to find this source (assuming he is innocent). The LE orange pictures seemed pretty desperate for this type of fiber, especially the one tangled up on Daniel. If it was from dancing with one of the ladies, I would think he would remember that and Feldman would have done more than just point a reference to Brenda's sweater.

I am not arguing here whether it is common to the orange fiber on Daniel or not. I think the blue-grey nylon could be LE contamination or common car carpet fibers, but not these 1" orange fibers mainly because of it being tangled in the necklace and the type of fiber.

The location of the fibers could fit with contamination from the Dad's ladies. The quantity found seems high though for just dancing contact (maybe something more involved). But I have a hard time with the lack of defense pushing finding, or pushing to get this item.

[BARLF]

Well, poor ole David not a congressman. Just look at Teddy,he's revered in the Senate and probably even here in Missouri. Certainly not by me,thats for sure! Poor ole David not even a member of the CB Club?

[cyncooper]

I think the blue-grey nylon could be LE contamination or common car carpet fibers

I found some testimony the other day where the witness stated the blue nylon fibers were definitely NOT carpet. (just fyi)

[Spunky]

I have a question about the drag mark. Where did the drag mark come from? Did it come 'from' the road or trail deeper into the desert/brush?

Ok I will explain it again. I was watching one of the witnesses testify. The medical examiner, I think it was.

He pointed to the photograph of the scene and showed the drag mark was parallel to the body.It came from nowhere and went nowhere. When the prosecutor? asked him was the drag mark the size of a hand he said, No! When asked if the drag mark was the size of a body he said, No! The medical examiner then said it was the size entrails would make.

The assumption was that an animal came along took out her insides, carried them aways, then dropped them and then drug them for a ways and finally ate them where they were at last.

There is no evidence the body was dragged anywhere.

[pinz-n-needlez]

Perhaps ending in the death of an innocent (imo) man. At that point, the sarcasm turns into sadness, then righteous anger. I hope we can stick with sarcasm.

As to justice for Danielle, like John, I think Dusek's pigheadedness has probably allowed her murderer to get away. And sympathy I would be inclined to feel for her parents evaporated the day I saw them testify in the Preliminary Hearing.

That sweet girl sure didn't deserve to end up with earthly caretakers such as they. Some children can survive and overcome dreadful beginnings to their lives. Danielle didn't survive her parents' hedonism and infantile obsessions. Bless her soul.

And now off to bed before I get any more maudlin. See ya all Tuesday.

[pinz-n-needlez]

Your points are very well stated.

I agree that the garbage we're watching the VDs pull, the unaccountable fairy tale of the stock market and the depraved president who brought most of us to FR all come out of a common genesis.

And I agree, the media seems to have appointed themselves guardians of that fountain of ruin.

Now, for real, goodnight. :-)

[demsux]

Well, I finally caught up...my, my, my...their was more battling here today than at the Rams minicamp.

From posts, it appears that this guy agrees with the later drop date.

[demsux]

You really kind of short-shrifted the 666 winner for this thread...he/she did not get the "isn't it eerie" list of dates.

[John Jamieson]

I don't think DW wants to own anything that might even come close to matching the mystery Dehesa fiber.