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Prosecution's Bug Expert Struggles On Stand:08/01/2002 Westefield Trial Nears Finish Lap!
Court TV ^ | August 1, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

Posted on 07/31/2002 9:20:15 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: fnord
On ctv this morning, they showed parts of Feldman's opening statement. I must have missed it that day. Wow, he was sharp! (I know, duh! lol)

Fred, the first talking head on ctv around here, was talking to a guest about Brenda's testimony after they showed clips. BTW, her tears look so fake by now.

Fred actually talked about a theory of Barbara killing Danielle! My jaw hit the floor! CTV actually looking closely at alternate theories, who da thunk?


Fred's been refreshingly even handed, but leaning toward the state. I wonder if a tide is turning.
61 posted on 08/01/2002 6:24:11 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: pinz-n-needlez
Believe it or not, there are a couple of Hosts at CTV, who are actually giving DW a fair shake.

Ricki Klieborn (sp?) and the last hostess of the day, Catherine Crier are doing their best to see both sides.

Nancy Grace is all prosecution, who can't even stand to look at Westerfield, and didn't need a trial to convict him.

I can't stand to look at her. Touche' Nannie.

sw

62 posted on 08/01/2002 6:31:34 AM PDT by spectre
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To: spectre
You're right about Ricki. She's sharp every day.

I liked Catherine Crier when she was on Fox. Some of her comments on this case have been off the wall. She is worse that Nancy some days. I just turn her off. Maybe on another case I can listen to her.
63 posted on 08/01/2002 6:36:02 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: pinz-n-needlez
They just played clips of denise talking about the pizza party. Oh my goodness. She is so obviously lying - about everything. imo
64 posted on 08/01/2002 6:37:01 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: Greg Weston
Will the jury also consider all the lying the vD's did to the police in the first 17 hours after Danielle went missing?
65 posted on 08/01/2002 6:45:30 AM PDT by BARLF
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To: pinz-n-needlez
Give Catherine another chance today..She is trying to see both sides lately.

Now, then we haven't discussed Beth Karas, CTV's on the spot Reporter in San Diego.

Beth is sooo irritating. From the way she talks, and her exaggerated facial expressions, poor Beth appears to be suffering from chronic constipation.

sw

66 posted on 08/01/2002 6:46:59 AM PDT by spectre
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To: FresnoDA
Hey Frez..........I have a son at this moment on Safara in Africa!
67 posted on 08/01/2002 6:47:12 AM PDT by BARLF
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To: FresnoDA
Yeppers, Fres. I was thinking that it would be so cool if I could just update from work. Well, that's not to be. The pics are great!!
68 posted on 08/01/2002 6:48:47 AM PDT by Jaded
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To: PFKEY
Well this problem, like so many others in this particular case, suffers from a lack of relevant information.

My thoughts are that the offending .mpg's were part of a mass download from a FTP site because of the way they are organized. (Remember that DW had a cable connection.) The got put on a CDR during a routine backup.

What is more telling to me is that the media player record did not show them being played recently. It may be that DW did not even know they were there.

It is also telling that the CD case that contained them was never fingerprinted so that one would know who used the CD. We are left to assume that DW viewed the porn when in fact it could be a plant. I could make the same CD on my computer over 100 miles away and plant it and to the unknowing it would appear to be DW's.

69 posted on 08/01/2002 6:51:40 AM PDT by Dave_in_Upland
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To: spectre
She seems to have gotten a cosmetic make-over, looks so much younger. Maybe she cleaned up her brain, too. :-) I'm so shallow. lol

I'll try to catch her this afternoon. thanks for the tip.
70 posted on 08/01/2002 6:55:32 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: PFKEY
My problem with some of the attack clips that were shown in the trial were recovered deleted files. Watkins/Dusek don't see fit to tell when they were deleted. Or when they were deleted in relation to when they were viewed. If say, they were viewed on 11/30/01 at 1:50 PM and deleted on 11/30/01 at 1:56PM, do you think it is relevant. This is a clear indication that WHOEVER was watching the clips found them distasteful. Apparently, the porn was a bulk download thing. Original cost probably less than 10.00. Accumulated cost beyond measure. Viewing naked women does not make you a murderer.
71 posted on 08/01/2002 6:55:32 AM PDT by Jaded
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To: pinz-n-needlez
For those of us still asleep on the Left coast when Court TV comes on, can you tell us more about what was said about the Barb as killer theory?
72 posted on 08/01/2002 7:10:12 AM PDT by HoneyBoo
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To: Greg Weston
Good morning..Greg.

Here we go again. Now, we have two teenage girls kidnapped in California. Add this to Samantha and Cassandra murders, and the Elisabeth Smart abduction..all while DW has been on trial.

In light of the fact, that the Jury has not been sequestered, do you think they are ready to make an "example" out of him?

sw

73 posted on 08/01/2002 7:29:46 AM PDT by spectre
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To: FresnoDA
First time posting, hope to not goof it up. FresnoDA, thanks for all the good info you provide. I keep going back to the "trained" dogs. If DW had Danielle in his vehicles, those dogs would have gone crazy, IMO. Guess it will come down to which attorney makes the best closing argument.
74 posted on 08/01/2002 7:46:14 AM PDT by I. Ben Hurt
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To: HoneyBoo
It's in the transcripts, I think when Dusek did redirect. He asked if she was concerned about Barbara hurting her children. She said, "no."

He asked if she was so comfortable about Barbara that she gave her permission to go upstairs. Brenda said that Barbara just went up on her own.

I'm not too good at searching through the transcripts, maybe someone can find them. It all sounded interesting in light of recent speculation here.

The testimony of Denise was weird to see. Her body language and darting eyes and giggles at the most inappropriate places just screamed, liar! liar!

A couple of times, it sounded like she was reciting a script and lost her place.

I'm convinced the whole scenario at the the vd's Saturday night was concocted by a committee of drunks. So many strange, nonsequiter-ish comments in Brenda's testimony reminds me of spaghetti being thrown against a wall. I wonder what will be left sticking.....
75 posted on 08/01/2002 7:47:46 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: pinz-n-needlez
YELP!
76 posted on 08/01/2002 7:55:27 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: All; Jaded; juzcuz
There are two threads going. Since not everybody is on both of them, I thought some of you might be interested in these comments ...

Shen said she lifted long green fibers from Danielle's clothes.... Now I know Danielle had clothes in her room. I know she was found naked the long green fibers were collected from both places... I think Shen made a mistake in admitting that she took fibers from danielle's clothes. I think later she tried to cover it up by saying that the different sets of long green fibers were not similar... I could be mistaken, but right now that's what I think....
562 posted on 7/31/02 9:14 PM Pacific by juzcuz

The original statements were that the searchers identified her by her clothes. That has always struck me as odd. What evidence was on those clothes? DNA of the killer? Why was LE in such a hurry to get the pics that the searcher took before LE got there.
581 posted on 8/1/02 7:36 AM Pacific by Jaded


77 posted on 08/01/2002 7:58:59 AM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: pinz-n-needlez
Barbara had opportunity:

If you read the transcripts of the pizza eaters, Denise, Rich, and Keith. They say that they don't remember seeing Barbara until it was time to leave, or at 2:30AM. So where was Barbara while, Damon, Brenda, Denise, Keith and Rich were at the table? If Damon came down- soon after Brenda went up and said "rude", why did Barbara stay up there for 20+? minutes or more, while the rest of the people were in the kitchen? (if that is what happened) Maybe she was checking up on Danielle???? Note: Soon after pizza- mood gets "Somber".

I started seeing Barbara as dangerously aggressive after reading Ms. Welty's/sp? testimony. She described how Barbara shoved her hand/arm arm down Welty's blouse -to cop a feel- while at Dad's the same night of all this stuff. Just think, Barbara wasn't trying to hurt Ms. Welty, she was trying to check out Ms Welty's breasts.
78 posted on 08/01/2002 8:20:14 AM PDT by juzcuz
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To: I. Ben Hurt; spectre; Politicalmom; mommya; All
Good post, 74 Ben, and I agree with your comments...BTTT...
79 posted on 08/01/2002 8:26:19 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: crystalk
Actually it came from the Dr Mudd who treated John Wilkes Booth after the Lincoln Assassination.
80 posted on 08/01/2002 8:28:25 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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