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To: juzcuz; mommya
I was just reading Shen's cross exam from Feldman and found this regarding the time the fiber came to be in her hair:

Q. WITH REGARDS TO THE FIBER THAT WAS -- YOU POINTED OUT TO THE JURY THAT MR. CLARKE HAD A WHILE BACK ON THAT WAS ON THE NECKLACE?

A. YES.

Q. THAT WAS WRAPPED AROUND THE NECKLACE, IS THAT RIGHT?

A. IT WAS ACTUALLY TANGLED IN THE HAIR AND THE HAIR WAS TANGLED ON THE NECKLACE.

Q. HOW LONG COULD THAT FIBER HAVE BEEN THERE?

A. WELL, I THINK THE FIBER CERTAINLY COULD HAVE BEEN THERE FOR AS LONG AS THE BODY WAS IN ITS RESTING LOCATION. THINK IT'S UNLIKELY THE FIBER WAS THERE FOR MUCH PRIOR TO THAT BECAUSE IT WAS TANGLED IN SUCH A LARGE WAD OF HAIR ON THE NECKLACE. SO I THINK THAT THE FIBER GOT ONTO THE HAIR ON THE NECKLACE AT SOME POINT CLOSE TO WHERE IT WAS WHERE THE BODY WAS PLACED WHERE IT WAS FOUND.

Q. ARE YOU GUESSING?

A. I THINK THAT IS A REASONABLE INTERPRETATION.

Q. IS ANOTHER REASONABLE INTERPRETATION THAT THAT FIBER HAD BEEN WRAPPED AROUND PREVIOUS TO THAT TIME, AND THAT DANIELLE HADN'T BEEN MOVING FOR A WHILE?

A. SHE HADN'T BEEN MOVED? THAT CERTAINLY IS POSSIBLE.

Q. IF SHE HAD BEEN KEPT IN A PARTICULAR LOCATION, SAY FOR TEN DAYS, IT COULD STAY THERE, COULDN'T IT?

MR. CLARKE: OBJECTION, ASSUMES FACTS NOT IN EVIDENCE.

THE COURT: SUSTAINED. YOU NEED NOT ANSWER.

BY MR. FELDMAN: Q. ASSUME HYPOTHETICALLY THAT THE BODY WASN'T PLACED IN ITS ULTIMATE RESTING LOCATION UNTIL APPROXIMATELY FEBRUARY THE 16TH AND FEBRUARY THE 18TH.

A. OKAY.

Q. AND ASSUME THAT FOR A FEW DAYS OR SEVERAL DAYS BEFORE THAT THERE HADN'T BEEN MUCH IN THE WAY OF MOVEMENT OF THE BODY. COULD THE FIBER HAVE BEEN THERE?

MR. CLARKE: OBJECTION, ASSUMES FACTS NOT IN EVIDENCE.

THE COURT: SUSTAINED.

BY MR. FELDMAN:

Q. HOW MANY DAYS PRIOR TO FEBRUARY THE 16TH, IF YOU HAVE AN OPINION, COULD THAT FIBER HAVE BEEN PLACED OR LOCATED WHERE ULTIMATELY YOU IDENTIFIED IT?

MR. CLARKE: SAME OBJECTION.

THE COURT: OVERRULED. YOU MAY ANSWER THAT, IF YOU KNOW.

THE WITNESS: IF THE VICTIM WAS NOT MOVING OR PARTAKING IN ANY NORMAL ACTIVITIES AS FAR AS PERSONAL HYGIENE, THEN CERTAINLY THE FIBER COULD HAVE BEEN ATTACHED AND REMAINED ATTACHED THROUGH THAT TIME.

BY MR. FELDMAN: Q. AND IF ON YOUR HYPOTHESIS WITH REGARD TO YOUR ANSWER, ASSUMING ALL OF WHAT YOU'VE JUST ARTICULATED IS THE CASE, HOW LONG COULD THE FIBER HAVE BEEN --

MR. CLARKE: SAME OBJECTION, YOUR HONOR.

THE COURT: SUSTAINED.

Now, Feldman throws in his theory about Danielle arriving at Dehesa later in February. But note how she reaffirms and he seems to concede to her opinion that the fiber did in fact come to be in the hair at or very near the time of Danielle's death. (Note his "Danielle wasn't moving" question)

A further aside is he doesn't really challenge that the fibers match except for the standard "they could or could not have a common source" disclaimer.

349 posted on 07/31/2002 2:38:23 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
IS what your saying is that if the "hair/fiber" ball was formed early than her abduction then its less likely she was killed on the 12th ?
352 posted on 07/31/2002 2:44:15 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: cyncooper
Q. HOW LONG COULD THAT FIBER HAVE BEEN THERE? A. WELL, I THINK THE FIBER CERTAINLY COULD HAVE BEEN THERE FOR AS LONG AS THE BODY WAS IN ITS RESTING LOCATION. THINK IT'S UNLIKELY THE FIBER WAS THERE FOR MUCH PRIOR TO THAT BECAUSE IT WAS TANGLED IN SUCH A LARGE WAD OF HAIR ON THE NECKLACE. SO I THINK THAT THE FIBER GOT ONTO THE HAIR ON THE NECKLACE AT SOME POINT CLOSE TO WHERE IT WAS WHERE THE BODY WAS PLACED WHERE IT WAS FOUND. Q. ARE YOU GUESSING? A. I THINK THAT IS A REASONABLE INTERPRETATION. Q. IS ANOTHER REASONABLE INTERPRETATION THAT THAT FIBER HAD BEEN WRAPPED AROUND PREVIOUS TO THAT TIME, AND THAT DANIELLE HADN'T BEEN MOVING FOR A WHILE? A. SHE HADN'T BEEN MOVED? THAT CERTAINLY IS POSSIBLE. Q. IF SHE HAD BEEN KEPT IN A PARTICULAR LOCATION, SAY FOR TEN DAYS, IT COULD STAY THERE, COULDN'T IT? MR. CLARKE: OBJECTION, ASSUMES FACTS NOT IN EVIDENCE. THE COURT: SUSTAINED. YOU NEED NOT ANSWER. BY MR. FELDMAN: Q. ASSUME HYPOTHETICALLY THAT THE BODY WASN'T PLACED IN ITS ULTIMATE RESTING LOCATION UNTIL APPROXIMATELY FEBRUARY THE 16TH AND FEBRUARY THE 18TH. A. OKAY. Q. AND ASSUME THAT FOR A FEW DAYS OR SEVERAL DAYS BEFORE THAT THERE HADN'T BEEN MUCH IN THE WAY OF MOVEMENT OF THE BODY. COULD THE FIBER HAVE BEEN THERE? MR. CLARKE: OBJECTION, ASSUMES FACTS NOT IN EVIDENCE. THE COURT: SUSTAINED. BY MR. FELDMAN: Q. HOW MANY DAYS PRIOR TO FEBRUARY THE 16TH, IF YOU HAVE AN OPINION, COULD THAT FIBER HAVE BEEN PLACED OR LOCATED WHERE ULTIMATELY YOU IDENTIFIED IT? MR. CLARKE: SAME OBJECTION. THE COURT: OVERRULED. YOU MAY ANSWER THAT, IF YOU KNOW. THE WITNESS: IF THE VICTIM WAS NOT MOVING OR PARTAKING IN ANY NORMAL ACTIVITIES AS FAR AS PERSONAL HYGIENE, THEN CERTAINLY THE FIBER COULD HAVE BEEN ATTACHED AND REMAINED ATTACHED THROUGH THAT TIME. BY MR. FELDMAN: Q. AND IF ON YOUR HYPOTHESIS WITH REGARD TO YOUR ANSWER, ASSUMING ALL OF WHAT YOU'VE JUST ARTICULATED IS THE CASE, HOW LONG COULD THE FIBER HAVE BEEN --

There is no testimony to Danielle having a bath that evening and her hair did not look groomed for her passport picture, so this witness cannot say that the fiber was there at the time of death. I don't see Feldman conceding anything, he was just shut down by the judge.

398 posted on 07/31/2002 4:26:52 PM PDT by Krodg
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