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Van Dam Case Witness Challenges Findings Of Defense 'Bug Expert': But...His Testimony Don't Add Up..
Union Tribune ^ | July 31, 2002 | Jeff Dillion

Posted on 07/30/2002 3:58:51 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Did you post my site over there?
141 posted on 07/31/2002 9:31:51 AM PDT by Jaded
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To: Jaded
I've not posted your site anywhere...
142 posted on 07/31/2002 9:33:27 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: cyncooper
This is why I think the LE is not responsible for the orange fiber on the necklace and the defense screwed up chasing it with LE orange photos. IF the orange fiber in the necklace is the same as the other orange fibers it is either from one of the lady's at VD's and then dancing with DW (he did not do it), or from some item of DW's that is now missing (he did it). I think these fibers were 1 to 2 inches in length. Unless LE found other such long fibers of different colors (they did not report any, but not sure they would have) then I think the item would have to be mainly orange.

143 posted on 07/31/2002 9:33:39 AM PDT by clearvision
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To: Jaded
Your site is linked to on my webpage though and my fr page..
144 posted on 07/31/2002 9:34:15 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: cyncooper
Necklace fiber--

I looked for those Jen. Shen statements yesterday, but I could not find them. Thanks..

I have a guestion --In post #3 from kim-- I saw a side by side comparison of the fiber from the necklace--and a fiber from DW's environment??? Is that what I saw???

Also, If post #3 is a comparison, then where are the dark spots on the necklace fiber that Jen. Shen states she could not remove from the. Shouldn't the dark spots on the fiber show under that 400X magnification???
145 posted on 07/31/2002 9:34:51 AM PDT by juzcuz
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Hey soon I'll have something very special for you on my site..... I'll tell you when it's up.
146 posted on 07/31/2002 9:35:38 AM PDT by Jaded
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To: Jaded
Well, it does help if at least 2 threads are active.
147 posted on 07/31/2002 9:36:54 AM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: clearvision
My guess is that the defense knew that the orange fibers did not come from those shirts, but it did make the jurors start to wonder where the fibers came from because the source was not found in Westerfield's home. The fibers came from a common source, but where? Reasonable doubt is all the defense needs.

As for the fibers, I have a feeling that they came from Brenda while dancing, but whether they came from her sweater, a stuffed animal in Danielle's room, the dog bed, or some old shag carpet, is still a mystery.
148 posted on 07/31/2002 9:45:33 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Jaded
Is it a special pic from someone?
149 posted on 07/31/2002 9:45:39 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: Eva
Hi Eva, I would have to assume, or wonder if the prosecution checked out her sweater and if not, then why didn't the defense bring her sweater up??
150 posted on 07/31/2002 9:46:55 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
many. you'll just have to be patient!!
151 posted on 07/31/2002 9:50:09 AM PDT by Jaded
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To: Jaded
Freepmail....
152 posted on 07/31/2002 9:53:56 AM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: All
Is court in recess today...no streaming video
153 posted on 07/31/2002 9:57:08 AM PDT by demsux
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I remember defense witness(es) bringing up a "red" sweater on Brenda at Dad's. I can't remember if Denise or Brenda were asked during cross. I also think the defense was denied access to the VD residence (clothes too?). Assuming any clothes they wore that evening were still around.
154 posted on 07/31/2002 9:57:49 AM PDT by clearvision
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Also, I would not assume the prosecution (at least in this trial) would have checked. They certainly did not point out the Linens and Things flyer with the bed covering found at DW's was also sent to everyone in the area at the same time. I got what looked to be the same flyer here in Texas about a month ago.
155 posted on 07/31/2002 10:01:15 AM PDT by clearvision
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I object to your motion, and would like to enter into the record that indeed Markers are more legible than your mickey mouse eraser.

Over-ruled. And put down the orange high-lighter.

156 posted on 07/31/2002 10:06:14 AM PDT by dread78645
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Her sweater would not have been made of nylon, actally. It would be a good source of transfer of fibers from one source to another, though, lots of static electricity and shaggy enough to hide stay fibers.
157 posted on 07/31/2002 10:11:31 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva
The orange fibers are acrylic, which I believe is used in "fluffy" type sweaters.
158 posted on 07/31/2002 10:13:35 AM PDT by clearvision
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Nylon is not often used in clothes, especially, shedding two inch fibers. I still keep thinking of a stuffed animal or the dog bed. What color was the missing dog bed? Orange is such a odd color, it sounds so seventyish. I also keep thinking of old shag carpet.
159 posted on 07/31/2002 10:17:26 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva
Also, I still find testimony that mainly talks about the orange fibers being in the SUV, and his house laundry (maybe some laundry from RV also?). I can't find any discussion about comparison or quantities of orange fibers found in the RV. This would fit with him driving from Dad's with attached orange fibers and then going up to bed (although 100's of 1" orange fibers sounds pretty high for just dancing contact). I would think there would be orange fibers (or similar quantities) in the RV if Danielle was wrapped in something orange.
160 posted on 07/31/2002 10:21:17 AM PDT by clearvision
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