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Evidence On Insects Likely To Continue: (Westerfield Trial "Creeps" Along At An Ant's Pace!)
Union Trib ^
| June 29, 2002
| Alex Roth
Posted on 07/28/2002 8:56:21 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: RnMomof7
Danielle van Dams Parents Sexual Swinging Put Her in Danger...(EXCERPT)......In addition to his activities the night of Danielles disappearance, Damon van Dam testified that, on at least three occasions, he had sex or tried to have sex with Easton in the presence of his wife. He and Brenda also admitted having had sex with Kemal and her husband, Andy, at a Halloween party in October 2000.
tried to have sex?????????????????????????????????????
Bartender, Bartender???? GIVE THAT MAN ANOTHER RED BULL......LOL
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posted on
07/29/2002 9:48:44 AM PDT
by
FresnoDA
To: connectthedots
That is true..
We were led to believe it happened only once...SusanL's tears could have been tears of fear...that if she revealed too much, and he was released...ya just never know. Of course, anything outside of Known testimony and evidence is pure speculation, I realize that. Do you wonder why the "X" wasn't called to the stand.
To: FresnoDA
Trying to find the humor in what you are posting....
To: connectthedots
And the body became "extremely mummified" in just 2-3 days? Expert testimony is it can take as little as 24 hours. Her body was not completely mummified, but partially. I believe the prosecution theory is bug activity delayed until animal activity took place, opening the body up and making it attractive to insects at that time (plus weather had warmed up by then increasing insect population).
To: cyncooper
I believe the prosecution theory is bug activity delayed until animal activity took place, opening the body up and making it attractive to insects at that time Prosecution SPECULATION is more like it.
To: Jaded
He became forceful only Once.I don't believe that is accurate. Susan said when he drank he could become forceful (in addition to quite, withdrawn, etc).
Please don't make leaps and bounds that I am saying any more than that. I just don't believe the testimony was that he became forceful *only once*.
To: connectthedots
Prosecution SPECULATION is more like it.Well, you are speculating that a body could not mummify in 2-3 days despite expert testimony to the contrary.
To: All
Dusek really demonstrated his sense of fairness right now. < /sarcasm >
He is complaining about delays due to waiting for surrebuttal witnesses. I guess it was okay to wait and delay for Goff, but not not okay to wait for a defense witness.
Dusek is too eager to put Westerfield to death. I don't think solid proof of innocence would turn him around. What a shame and how unjust!!!
To: Southflanknorthpawsis
I fail to see what is relevant about your post...it is disruptive to the VDA/Threadjackal approach too WHITEWASH TRIAL WATCHING....please redact your comments..../so
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posted on
07/29/2002 10:13:17 AM PDT
by
FresnoDA
To: cyncooper
Cyn, have you seen the weather data for February? Nights may have dipped down to the 30s and 40s, but daytime highs, every single day, were upper 70s to even low 90s. Bug activity might be slowed in the chilly early morning hours, but I would think 75 or 80 degrees would speed things up considerably every day.
In addition, her face and hands were mummified. Not her torso, not her limbs, not her lower trunk. Flies would land within minutes, unless she were placed there in the dark early morning hours of one of the days it got near freezing, but then it warmed up considerably every day, hitting quite warm temperatures by mid afternoon. EVERY DAY. It wasn't like Dubuque or Dallas or Detroit in February. It's San Diego. Warm, breezy, coastal, Southern California climate.
The eyes, nose, mouth, ears, genital area, any wound area (rape or other mortal wound responsible for her death) would attract flies post haste. As soon as the temperatures started to thaw a bit (like 8-9 a.m. for the golfers to be able to get on the no-longer-frost-covered grass), the flies would be swarming like mad. They had plenty of water from the golf course's regular irrigation, lots of food from the country club garbage cans and the housing area nearby to keep them fat and sassy, and spring-to-summer like warmth (compared to the rest of the country) to provide them plenty of energy.
On the other hand, beetles love the dry, tough, mummified meat. So they would have been present and laid eggs and begun hatching their beetlings from the get-go if the body had mummified within 24 hours. But they hadn't. (Unless that Bionic Ant carried them off, too.)
IMHO, this theory of 24-hour-mummification slowing down bug activity for at least 2 weeks just doesn't match the evidence.
90
posted on
07/29/2002 10:14:04 AM PDT
by
shezza
To: shezza
Bad shezza, bad...please adhere to the recommended VDA/Threadjackal rules of engagement.../so
91
posted on
07/29/2002 10:16:33 AM PDT
by
FresnoDA
To: FresnoDA
Yeah, but...but..but...Frezzzzzzzz! (*sigh*)
92
posted on
07/29/2002 10:18:09 AM PDT
by
shezza
To: FresnoDA
ROFL !!! I realize you're right.
In respecting the need for relevance, I am posting that I just drank my last cup of coffee and will be going outdoors to enjoy the sun for a few hours. I'm wearing a purple terry romper and will be grabbing a Diet Coke on my way out the door. I might make a list of errands I need to run while I sit.
Be back later. Hugzz and kizzezz
To: shezza
Do you recall Faulkner's testimony about fly activity? Lowest population/activity he's ever seen/researched. In other words---ever.
To: shezza
Feldman said this morning that the "saturation level" of info getting to to the jury through the media was beyond anything they anticipated (A&E ran special about Body Farm, brought up Samantha Runnion's perp being acquitted and the enormous quantity of news articles which might affect jury's opinion in this case). Judge has said he might consider sequestering the jury during deliberations. He also said he might informally talk to the jury about watching particular programs (Body Farm stuff, etc.).
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posted on
07/29/2002 10:22:58 AM PDT
by
shezza
To: Southflanknorthpawsis
He is complaining about delays due to waiting for surrebuttal witnesses. I guess it was okay to wait and delay for Goff...Delay for Goff=one day (today). He's there tomorrow.
To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Drink some red bull, according to fres it'll help you get your *errands* done faster.
To: cyncooper
Lowest population he has seen does not equal NO FLIES for two to three weeks!!!
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posted on
07/29/2002 10:25:28 AM PDT
by
shezza
To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Don't forget the rum and bleach.
Enjoy your time outside, and think of me sitting here,jealous, closed up in an office building in Mission Valley.
To: shezza
Yeah, but...but..but...So, you agree with calling me a "threadjackal" because I have an interest in the trial but disagree with your interpretation of the evidence?
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