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LoTR-The Two Towers: Book discussion (The Green Dragon Inn) III

Posted on 07/26/2002 11:29:06 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

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To: LinnieBeth
Instead of beer, do you have a Margarita?

No. Guess I'll have to make a run to the liquor store.

441 posted on 08/12/2002 2:11:21 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed; LinnieBeth; Sam Cree; Scott from the Left Coast; Tuor
Hello all... I have been to busy to play here! [ninnyhammers!] It looks like you all have had good talk today! I think I am suffering from Saruman's other fault, envy.

Remember, (from the mission statement above) we are here to "read, listen and become inspired by the many aspects of The Lord of the Rings that touch us deeply and reconnect us to the values we aspire to... so I think everyone is on topic, even though we somehow got here from a chapter about talking trees!

Keep it up! - Let Overtaxed know if you are getting low on wings and pints, and perhaps tomorrow I will have time to catch up! - I hope so!

442 posted on 08/12/2002 2:53:18 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
...even though we somehow got here from a chapter about talking trees

It's funny Hair, I can't speak for everyone, but I was dying to get to the Ents. However, the whole Ent-thing evokes expanding thoughts, and warm memories and all kinds "deep rooted" feelings. Maybe that's what's so endearing bout the Ents.

Dunno, just a thought.

for all the Warnings!! about entering theFanghorn Forest, the Ents we meet seem very kind, thoughtful, slow-to-anger but decisive and effective when motived.

Makes you wonder if some of our population that has seemed willing to endure any wickedness would or could be roused to take action for good??

443 posted on 08/12/2002 3:30:31 PM PDT by LinnieBeth
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To: HairOfTheDog; Sam Cree; Overtaxed; LinnieBeth; Tuor
Aha! A stay of banishment from the Power-That-Be!

Will give the credit to Sam's masterful working of the author into it.

Could kind of get into the wings, though -- Margarita's or pints. If they can grow good Pipe Weed in the Shire, then I suspect that it might be moderate enough in climate to allow for limes and whatever strange substance they make Tequila out of (I knew at one time, before I tried the stuff in straight shots -- memory's never been the same since).

444 posted on 08/12/2002 5:50:41 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: LinnieBeth
You know, the question of how Ents actually fight is kind of fascinating. We don't get a whole lot of detail on that, but they sure seem to be able to wreak tremendous havoc (in a hasty way, too) when so inclined. Doesn't seem to be many weapons that are effective against them -- Orcs are apparently terribly overmatched.

At Helm's Deep that great mass of Orcs is just a dead heap in the morning and a "forest" has appeared out of nowhere, just standing still.

Would be kind of interesting to know just how they did it -- though mystery follows Ents and hurons (sp?) wherever they go and whatever they do.

445 posted on 08/12/2002 5:57:09 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
Would be kind of interesting to know just how they did it -- though mystery follows Ents and hurons

On one of the 'Ring" sites, I was ready a Spoiler that said we will see the destruction wreaked by the Ents/hurons instead of having it relayed through commentary. Now that sounds just dandy doesn't it?

446 posted on 08/12/2002 6:21:24 PM PDT by LinnieBeth
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
You know, now that you mention it, Tequila is made from the Agave-cactus. Did they have cactus in middle-earth?
Hmmmmm
447 posted on 08/12/2002 6:23:13 PM PDT by LinnieBeth
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To: LinnieBeth
That might have to be imported. The Shire doesn't sound like a cactus type of place at all.
448 posted on 08/12/2002 6:32:36 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: LinnieBeth
Would be kind of interesting to know just how they did it --

I thought they did it by busting up rock...and other things....with their roots/feet and maybe by sonic attack Hroom Hom!

449 posted on 08/12/2002 6:34:06 PM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
did it by busting up rock...

I think you're right, and perhaps using themselves as battering rams?

450 posted on 08/12/2002 7:05:52 PM PDT by LinnieBeth
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To: Overtaxed; LinnieBeth
Well, that's kind of what I wondered...I can come up with ways that I imagined they did it -- but I'm interested in the interpretation of others (including the moviemakers).

They can certainly move around heavy objects with alacrity -- given that they stopped up and redirected rivers (with no machinery!).

451 posted on 08/12/2002 7:56:25 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
Good Morning!

I suppose they can always use their limbs/hands too.
452 posted on 08/13/2002 3:20:41 AM PDT by Overtaxed
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
RE: the Ents marching to war. HotD posted this link:

http://www.tolkien-archives.com/audio/tolkienreads/book3/ch4-22.mp3

It is Tolkien himself reading the Ents Marching song: Hightly Recommended.

After this song; We get: Treebeard, "We Ents do not like being roused: we....". Reasons they were aroused.
Treebeard: "It is the orc-work, The wanton hewing--(of trees)" and:
..."the treachery of a neighbour, who should have helped us.(Saruman)

Then "Will you really break the doors of Isengard?' asked Merry?

We are stronger than Trolls Interesting Troll Comment coming later We can split stone like the roots of trees, only quicker, far-quicker, if our minds are roused! If we are not hewn down, or destroyed by fire or blast of sorcery, we could split Isengard into splinters and crack its walls into rubble."

This shows the determination and capability of the Ents, it also tells us the reasons that so 'aroused' them. The one passage about their ability to split stone--"like the roots of trees", this seems to indicate that they can penetrate stone like the roots of normal trees, but that Ents can do this very quickly. For an unhasty folk, they can sure make up their minds and take action quickly, and it sounds like once in action the aren't to unhasty there either!

RE: the Trolls: Treebeard talking to Merry and Pippin says, "Maybe you have heard of Trolls? They are mighty strong. But Trolls are only counterfeits, made by the Enemy in the great Darkness, in mockery of Ents, as Orcs were of Elves

this directly parallels Satan counterfeiting the things of God.

I found these passages very telling. How say ya'll?

Oh, one more comment on the Ent - Entwife reunion- - Treebeard expressing sadness, sensing that they may be marching to their own doom - says,
"Still, I should have like to see the songs come true about the Entwives. I should dearly have liked to see Fimbrethil again.

But there, my friends, songs like trees bear fruit on in their own time (season).

453 posted on 08/13/2002 9:29:58 AM PDT by LinnieBeth
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To: LinnieBeth
Just found this posted on TORN...for those who were discussing what their image of Treebeard was like:

Note that Pippin is at the highest point he could climb...so he can see EVERYTHING...just like the little adventurer he is!!

454 posted on 08/13/2002 12:06:28 PM PDT by Alkhin
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To: Alkhin
That looks like the monster in an old '50s B or C Japanese movie I remember seeing on the late night horror show many years ago. I hope the image people improve on this.
455 posted on 08/13/2002 12:27:55 PM PDT by doubled
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To: doubled
I think its a perfect Treebeard! How else do you portray a tree-like being that walks???????????????????????
456 posted on 08/13/2002 12:37:56 PM PDT by Alkhin
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To: Alkhin
Wow! alkhin= thanks! It is terrific, except- where's the leaves? It is a Tree with a Beard though. So that's apt, but I just can't wait to see the Ents- moving....

Great, did TORN put up more pics from TTT today?
Lin
457 posted on 08/13/2002 1:18:11 PM PDT by LinnieBeth
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To: Alkhin
Alkhin, I went to TORN, and found that they pointed to Applause.com (a toy manufacturer) as the source for this pic.

So this is a picture of a toy replica of Treebeard/Merry/Pippin - See URL below:

http://www.applause.com/applause_gallery/licensed_products/lotr2/gallery.html
458 posted on 08/13/2002 3:03:52 PM PDT by LinnieBeth
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To: LinnieBeth
yes...I am sorry...I should have pointed that out to begin with...it is a TOY figure...but it gives an excellent idea of what he will look like in the movie...woo hoo!
459 posted on 08/13/2002 4:03:06 PM PDT by Alkhin
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To: Alkhin
...but it gives an excellent idea of what he will look like in the movie...woo hoo!

You can say that again!
Being that this is an image of a plastic toy, we can look forward to it being even better!

460 posted on 08/13/2002 4:20:02 PM PDT by LinnieBeth
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