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Mysterious Suburban Chicago Crop Circles
NBC 5 Chicago ^ | 7/26/02 | NBC 5 Chicago

Posted on 07/26/2002 11:24:55 AM PDT by Dengar01

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To: Lx
I'm at a loss as to why it's "sacred", is trig "sacred"? Is a rhombus "sacred" and an ellipse isn't? Is new math "sacred" while the old way is pure evil?

If you read the first paragraph from the page that I had linked, you'll see what "Sacred Geometry" refers to..

The term "sacred geometry" is used by archaeologists, anthropologists, and geometricians to encompass the religious, philosohical, and spiritual beliefs that have sprung up around geometry in various cultures during the course of human history. It is a catch-all term covering Pythagorean geometry and neo-Platonic gometry, as well as the perceived relationships between organic curves and logarithmic curves.

That's one of the best definitions that I've found. Ask an archaeologist why they've decided to call it that, as I'm not the one who coined the term. But as it IS the term used to describe ancient geometry and mathematical relationships, that's the term we're stuck with.

What I want to know, how does this prove or disprove crop circles?

I don't know if it can be considered a proof of crop circles, but it does prove that whoever is creating them knows Sacred Geometry and the importance of the Golden Ratio.

A little more info...

SACRED GEOMETRY OF CROP CIRCLES

661 posted on 08/07/2002 9:24:06 AM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: FormerLurker; Lx; balrog666; PatrickHenry; longshadow; VadeRetro; RadioAstronomer; All
I'm at a loss as to why it's "sacred", is trig "sacred"? Is a rhombus "sacred" and an ellipse isn't? Is new math "sacred" while the old way is pure evil?

If you read the first paragraph from the page that I had linked, you'll see what "Sacred Geometry" refers to..

The term "sacred geometry" is used by archaeologists, anthropologists, and geometricians to encompass the religious, philosohical, and spiritual beliefs that have sprung up around geometry in various cultures during the course of human history. It is a catch-all term covering Pythagorean geometry and neo-Platonic gometry, as well as the perceived relationships between organic curves and logarithmic curves.

In My Humble Opinion, mathematics, geometry, algebra, calculus, etc are all sacred because they are beautiful.

Except maybe I didn't think they were as beautiful when I was taking my mathematics final exams :-)

God has created the universe, including geometry and math, and I appreciate the beauty of His Creation.

Anyway, that's how I understand geometry to be sacred.

Just My Humble Opinion

662 posted on 08/07/2002 11:02:37 AM PDT by Jedi Master Yoda
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To: VadeRetro
When wrong, don't continue to be a horse's ass.

Don't you mean a horse's "gore3000"?

663 posted on 08/07/2002 11:05:36 AM PDT by balrog666
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To: FormerLurker
Ok, I read your link, aside from some pseudo-scientific claptrap, it comes down to the fact that the "hoaxes" don't line up with the so-called sacred geometry. The last page of your link shows one they call a hoax because one of the arms doesn't line up, an "obvious hoax".

Now if they creators and by that I men the modern men or woman who created them are neat, then it lines up and it's declared real?

The problem is that the reference circle, so to say, didn't have any witnesses to its magical creation, the only "proof" is that it lines up with what the "experts" say is sacred geometry. That's as bad as when Rivero cited his sources for his theories and the source was his own writings on his website.
664 posted on 08/07/2002 11:57:42 AM PDT by Lx
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To: Lx
Now if they creators and by that I men the modern men or woman who created them are neat, then it lines up and it's declared real?

It comes to the fact that the authentic formations follow exact geometrical rules and proportions, whereas the hoaxed formations don't.

That is but ONE of the characteristics of authentic formations.

665 posted on 08/07/2002 12:24:02 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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666 posted on 08/07/2002 12:24:29 PM PDT by Momaw Nadon
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To: FormerLurker
OK, let us assume that it passes the sacred geometry test, what's next?
667 posted on 08/07/2002 12:32:06 PM PDT by Lx
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To: Momaw Nadon
I think your post number is the anti-sacred geometry number.
668 posted on 08/07/2002 12:33:00 PM PDT by Lx
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To: Momaw Nadon
Looks like the Pillsbury doughboy.
669 posted on 08/07/2002 12:43:01 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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Here's one from England
670 posted on 08/07/2002 12:48:38 PM PDT by michigander
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To: PatrickHenry
Michelin man, no wait- it's the Stay puff marshmallow man from Ghostbusters. Proof positive that the circles are made by gozer.
671 posted on 08/07/2002 12:49:37 PM PDT by Lx
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To: Momaw Nadon; Lx
LOL Momaw Nadon

It's sort of ironic that you posted a crop circle pentagram in post #666

672 posted on 08/07/2002 12:54:47 PM PDT by Jedi Master Yoda
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It's sort of ironic that you posted a crop circle pentagram in post #666

The evil pentagram would be upside down. The pentagram with the top pointing upwards has actually been utilized as a sacred Christian symbol.

The Origin of the Pentagram

673 posted on 08/07/2002 1:02:22 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: Jedi Master Yoda
That's what those of us who've been studying this phenomena call, sacred irony or a cosmic coincidence.

You can tell it's not a hoax by the fact that's in English yet uses Arabic numbers, proof positive that it's real, that can't be faked with our current technology.


674 posted on 08/07/2002 1:04:56 PM PDT by Lx
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To: Lx
You can tell it's not a hoax by the fact that's in English yet uses Arabic numbers, proof positive that it's real, that can't be faked with our current technology.

I believe you have captured the Zeitgeist of this entire thread.

675 posted on 08/07/2002 1:09:07 PM PDT by balrog666
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To: balrog666
Gazundheit.
676 posted on 08/07/2002 1:16:18 PM PDT by Lx
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To: FormerLurker
Hey FL. TLC had a (new?) crop circle show on last night, don't know if you saw it, it was very pro (even had a hoaxer on who said that on some occassions he had been hassled by "mystery lights" similar to the ones in your film while doing his circling). But there was bad news for you too. They discussed the circle "next to" Stonehenge and the footage wasn't good for your position. When they started the did a boom move with the camera from inside Stonehenge to the edge with the farm field, when they got there you couldn't see the highway at all the ground terrain covered it and at least some of the field (the field was in it's natural state no idea how much if any of the circle would have been covered, without the highway couldn't tell how much field was covered, just that it was). Next they had some guy doing a stand-up on the rise that seperates the highway from the field. The hill is mean, it was at least 15 feet in change (he wasn't standing at the bottom and the top was more than one body length above his head) and at about a 60 degree angle (the guy had a hard time standing on it). That rise would be a MAJOR inhibition to the sightline of the field from road, after seeing that my concert line seems like a lot less hyperbole than when I first said it. A topomap or the photo excercise I outlined would still be the best way to prove the situation, but the TV footage did not look good for catching circle makers in the act.
677 posted on 08/07/2002 1:54:23 PM PDT by discostu
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To: FormerLurker; Momaw Nadon
The evil pentagram would be upside down.

Well, it would appear upside down if the photo of the crop circle had been taken at a different angle.

678 posted on 08/07/2002 2:17:33 PM PDT by Jedi Master Yoda
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To: FormerLurker
In any case Piltdown_Woman, are you trying to seduce me?

In your dreams, FL...I have a perfectly wonderful friend (also a FReeper) and have little need for your insecurities.

679 posted on 08/07/2002 3:06:23 PM PDT by Aracelis
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To: Piltdown_Woman
Now does this look like a person who is insecure?


680 posted on 08/07/2002 3:40:30 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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