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How Old is Too Old to Breast Feed Your Child? Court Case
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Posted on 07/10/2002 5:53:23 AM PDT by chance33_98



How Old is Too Old to Breast Feed Your Child? 

How Old is Too Old to Breast Feed Your Child? How old is too old to be breast feeding your child? A controversial case out of Illinois has re-ignited the debate. A young mother there is still breast feeding her eight-year-old. Should she be forced to stop?

Lynne Stuckey said she has been unfairly persecuted for doing something that is perfectly natural: breast feeding her son. But there's a twist - her son is now eight-years-old.

"I did nothing wrong with nursing my child. Kyle is my only son and I'm going to continue nursing him as long as he needs that and until he weens himself."

But child protection authorities did not agree. Her son Kyle was removed from her home for nearly six months and placed in foster care. Lynne and Kyle have undergone counseling and are reunited. Tuesday on Good Morning, America , she showed her face for the first time, saying accusations that the breast feeding was some kind of molestation are absurd.

"You don't nurse your child for yourself when that's something they are needing for comfort. When you do that, you're putting your child first."

An expert on Tuesday morning's show basically agreed, saying it's normal in some cultures for children to breast feed until they are five or six. But it may time for Kyle to be weened.

"There reaches an age when you have to help your child find more mature ways to comfort themselves," said the expert.

"This is a normal thing and people need to know that, and Kyle is a wonderful child," Stuckey said.

By speaking out, Lynne Stuckey said she fears the state may again move to take her child away. The American Academy of Pediatrics said roughly 20% of children are weened by age one, and the vast majority of toddlers are weened by age two.


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To: mewzilla; chance33_98; homeschool mama; Aggie Mama; All
Apparently, that is referred to as "non-nutritive nursing" or similar terms.

I found an interesting website with articles written by a Texas A&M professor (anthropology and nutrition). She says that the average age of weaning around the world is 2.4-7 years old, and not always for nutritional purposes. It makes sense that G-d designed it this way because most children around the world have poor resources and dangerous water supplies. Thankfully, they don't have to contend with Freudian academia and they don't know that their toddlers are all obsessed with sex (/sarcasm).

Some excerpts: 4. One study of primates showed that the offspring were weaned when they had reached about 1/3 their adult weight. This happens in humans at about 5-7 years.

Studies have shown that a child's immune system doesn't completely mature until about 6 years of age, and it is well established that breast milk helps develop the immune system and augment it with maternal antibodies as long as breast milk is produced.

In terms of the benefits of extended breastfeeding, there have been a number of studies comparing breastfed and bottlefed babies in terms of the frequency of various diseases, and also IQ achievement. In every case, the breastfed babies had lower risk of disease and higher IQs than the bottle-fed babies.

Clearly, babies born in the U.S. don't have to contend with all the diseases and parasites and contaminated water that babies in Third World countries do. We have more supplementary foods that we can generally trust to be safe and clean. We can get our children immunized, and get them antibiotics for infections when necessary. The fact that we *can* does not mean that breastfeeding is unimportant. Breastfed babies still have the "edge" over bottlefed babies, even in a squeaky clean environment with wonderful medical care. They get sick less often, they are smarter, they are happier. Another important consideration for the older child is that they are able to maintain their emotional attachment to a person, rather than being forced to switch to an inanimate object such as a teddy bear or blanket. I think this sets the stage for a life of people-orientation, rather than materialism, and I think that is a good thing. I also can't imagine living through the toddler years without that close loving connection to a child going through enormous changes, some of which are very frustrating to the child.

From her supporting references page: Greer, F.R. and R.D. Apple 1991 Physicians, formula companies, and advertising: A historical perspective. American Journal of Diseases of Children 145:282-286. (This article talks about the history of collusion between doctors and the infant formula industry. The formula industry gives hundreds of thousands of dollars to doctors and hospitals to promote their products, sponsors doctor's attendance at medical meetings, etc. The use of infant formula also causes more infant sickness, thus benefitting the doctors financially. No one gains financially when mothers breastfeed and children are healthy, except the parents who don't have to pay for formula or medical care).

Another website about breastfeeding has a page: BREASTFEEDING AND THE BIBLE (Hint: late weaning is the norm)

I feel sorry for my grandmother and her generation. They didn't even get the opportunity to try to breastfeed because the medical community convinced them that the bottle was much better.

221 posted on 07/10/2002 1:30:18 PM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: Prodigal Daughter
Thanks for the info. Breastfeeding, when possible, is best. No question. I'm just wondering if that is what this mom is actually doing, non-nutrative or whatever. I just get the impression, and I'll admit it's just from having seen her on the tube, that what she's doing has more to do with her needs than her child's.
222 posted on 07/10/2002 1:33:38 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: mewzilla
To me, she doesn't sound selfish in the article. But I didn't see the interview so maybe I'm missing something.
223 posted on 07/10/2002 1:43:10 PM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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To: one_particular_harbour
Well, that's a problem for the social workers of Eroticon 6 to deal with...;-)
224 posted on 07/10/2002 1:47:33 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: Aggie Mama
You're right. I just turned fifty and I quit breast feeding 5 or 6 days ago.
225 posted on 07/10/2002 1:48:14 PM PDT by bribriagain
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To: Jimer
This appears to be a "Stuckey wicket".
226 posted on 07/10/2002 1:49:02 PM PDT by bribriagain
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To: Cowgirl
What if the woman was doing it for physical gratification?
227 posted on 07/10/2002 1:49:03 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: chance33_98
Breastfeeding an 8-year-old is definitely creepy, but is it really the kind of thing child protective services should be involved with? This seems less like a case of an abuse mother and more like governmental micromanaging of admittedly bizarre but not apparently harmful parenting.
228 posted on 07/10/2002 1:52:21 PM PDT by Polonius
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To: My back yard
The woman was not breast-feeding. She hadn't produced milk in years. She was just pushing her son to suck on her titties.
229 posted on 07/10/2002 2:15:20 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: mewzilla
According to Hillary's Lovely Legs, the woman hasn't produced milk in years.
230 posted on 07/10/2002 2:17:49 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: chance33_98
I stopped breastfeeding when I was twenty-eight. How old is too old for the mom? My youngest was a little over one years old.
231 posted on 07/10/2002 2:21:08 PM PDT by zeaal
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To: stands2reason
And she is definitely in need of a court-mandated psychological evaluation and further attention. Big time! Her and her son. But removal? I don't think so.
232 posted on 07/10/2002 2:40:41 PM PDT by My back yard
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To: stands2reason
" Kyle is my only son and I'm going to continue nursing him as long as he needs that and until he weens himself."

This doesn't sound to me like, as you said, 'She was just pushing her son to suck on her titties

233 posted on 07/10/2002 2:46:20 PM PDT by My back yard
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To: Prodigal Daughter
This is why I will never buy anything affiliated with Nestle. They are the worst offenders of this....they go into 3rd world contries, convince the women that formula is best and then the women make formula with unsanitary water.
234 posted on 07/10/2002 2:53:53 PM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: chance33_98
When the kids at school find out, he'll stop & probably hate his mother for letting it go on so long. He'll be one of those super macho guys, trying to overcome the stigma. The kids will never let him forget it. Poor kid, his mother is warped.
235 posted on 07/10/2002 2:59:40 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: All
It just occured to me what his nick name at school will be when the kids find out (that should happen about now). He will be ole' Sucky Stuckey.
236 posted on 07/10/2002 3:09:19 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: stands2reason
Let me explain what this is, as I see it. There is something that happens sometimes, in breast-feeding, where - for the mother - it becomes more than just a natural feeding/nurturing of an infant/toddler. The natural thing is for the mother, at a certain age of her child's walking/talking, begins to discourage it, gently, with remarks like 'aren't you getting too big for that?' or 'big boys don't want to do that'. Or usually an older sibling or two will help provoke this step of maturation.

But, something else happens, sometimes. The mother holds too long to the suckling child. It is a mental illness of the mother, not the child. But, he very likely is feeling like there is something wrong with him, that he is not like other children. And removing him from the household re-affirms that. He was incarcerated away from his mother. He has done something bad, and he is bad. They both need psychological help at this stage, not government agencies removing him.

237 posted on 07/10/2002 3:10:24 PM PDT by My back yard
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To: My back yard
You have a good point.
238 posted on 07/10/2002 3:26:02 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: Aggie Mama
I think you are doing everything right....whoever thinks that you must wean when the child is 6mos old, or when they get teeth, well thats their own opinion...but its not mine...

I nursed my first son for only a few months...and then weaned him myself...I now wish I had let him self wean...

With my second son, I wanted to nurse longer, instead of giving up, like I did with my first child...so I just let him keep nursing...

When I started him on a cup, with milk, either at 6-8months, he developped a bad rash...the doctor said, it was a milk rash, and that he was allergic to milk, and that I should stop using whole milk for a while, and just stick to nursing him, which I did....

When he did get his first teeth, he bit me only once....when I pulled back at the pain, he seemed to sense he was nursing wrong...from then on, he never bit me again...any baby, with teeth, can and does easily learn to nurse without biting...

By the time he was a year old, the nursing had dropped of dramatically...we periodically introduced whole milk, to see if his allergy went away....

The allergy persisted for a while, tho it lessened and lessened over the months....between the ages of 1 and 2 yrs, he nursed only when he woke in the morning, before he went to bed at nite, and then for comfort, if he was sick, or had hurt himself....

By the time he was 2yrs of age, he nursed only once a day, just before he went to bed...

By the age of 2 1/2 yrs, he probably only nursed once a week, usually for comfort, again if he was ill, or just out of sorts...

At the age of 3, one day, he just stood up and announced to us all, 'I am now a big boy, no more peeing in my pants, no more mommys milk'...and true to his word, he never did pee his pants again, nor did he ever want to nurse again...

Hes as healthy as they come...hes 28 now, very rarely ever sick, and has actually never had a cavity in his life, tho he takes rotten care of his teeth...

There were people telling me my son would go to school, still wanting to nurse...obviously they knew nothing...

Most babies, will naturally wean themselves between the ages of 2 and 3...
239 posted on 07/10/2002 3:26:16 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: andysandmikesmom; Aggie Mama
Thanks for the report. This is interesting: CNN's health reporter, Elizabeth Cohen, Breastfeeding Older Kids
240 posted on 07/10/2002 3:56:29 PM PDT by Prodigal Daughter
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