[Balto_Boy]

I think Balto Boy is conflating the men and and families hurt by unjust divorces with men who are only interested in casual relationships with women.

Not really. I got into this thread by responding to claims of how the courts are taking fathers out of the family by pointing out that male behavior has a lot to do with it. That's all.

[Post Toasties]

Let me restate. By grouping the very different actions of two groups of men together, you are doing less than nothing to clarify or resolve any problem here.

In effect, by obdurately failing to acknowledge this distinction, you are implicitly promoting the unsupported assumption that men who are being divorced by their wives are really no different or at least no less blameworthy in their actions than those who consort with unwed mothers and casually victimize women.

This blaming of all men for the actions of some is patently ridiculous, partly because it is really nothing but obfuscation in the final analysis, and assuming such absurdities can do nothing to help the situation.

Clearer now?