[Balto_Boy]

I appreciate your point, but what good does it do to talk about how fathers are being taken out of the family, when male behavior has everything to do with enabling it? What good does it do to talk about men not getting equal protection from spouse abuse, when it's men who laugh it off and redicule other male victims, and it's men in the system, whether it be police or judges, who won't take it seriously? I don't enjoy male bashing any more than the next guy, but nothing is going to change until men stop choosing to be part of the problem.

[gogeo]

I don't enjoy male bashing any more than the next guy, but nothing is going to change until men stop choosing to be part of the problem.

That is the point of this thread, correct?