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To: vannrox
Great!

Thank goodness I never went to "art school"! My "art" education was limited to "Art and Archaeology," dealing with ancient Greek and Roman art.

Interestingly, Alma-Tadema, who did a number of the paintings in this article, did painstaking research to make sure that his ancient Greek and Roman clothing, situations, and furnishings were accurate. My main objection to his paintings is that, particularly in the couple paintings, his girls are pretty English Victorian bourgeoise. Not Romans or Greeks. We have plenty of Roman portrait busts and Greek vase paintings to show us what a beautiful Greek or Italian girl looked like in their day.

I think, though, that this is more obvious to us than it was to them, because painters tend to paint the current ideal of feminine beauty, and it's changed substantially since his day. The pre-Raphaelites (also well represented here) did the same thing, although Burne-Jones was the only one who tended to paint an idealized female head. The others (especially D.G. Rosetti, who is not one of my favorite painters) tended to paint over and over again their lady love of the moment.

I'm a little disappointed in this article's focus on the "idealist" school of painters. Just off the top of my head, although Burne-Jones and Alma-Tadema are fine painters, those with more depth include Hogarth (the ultimate realist) and William Holman Hunt (an amalgam of realism and idealism), with Holbein for portraits.

Check these out:

Hogarth: The Painter and His Pug

Heads of Six of His Servants

Herring, Archbishop of Canterbury (Hogarth in his most formal style)

Hunt: Portrait of His Father

The Triumph of the Innocents

Be sure to use the viewer to enlarge the last one justice, it has so much detail and is so beautifully painted. It represents the slaughtered Holy Innocents appearing to the baby Jesus on the Flight into Egypt.

Just my idiosyncratic opinion. Any other offerings from the floor?

12 posted on 06/16/2002 4:14:55 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother
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To: AnAmericanMother
Sheesh! "to do it justice," I meant.

At least the HTML tags work.

13 posted on 06/16/2002 4:21:43 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother
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To: AnAmericanMother
When you mentioned Hogarth, I thought you meant Burne Hogarth who did Tarzan strips.
Though he worked in "Comics", he was no slouch either.

If you consider Hogarth, Winsor McKay, Hal Foster, Frank Frazetta, Maxfield Parrish and many others, it may be said that many fine artists were driven into comics and strips by the Modernistic know-nothing snobs.

Hogath

McKay

Hal Foster

Frank Frazetta

Maxfield Parrish

14 posted on 06/16/2002 4:51:38 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: AnAmericanMother
Well, I would like to nominate just o few of the most amazing artists. Perhaps you may agree with me:

William Bouguereau


Biblis
The Flagellation of Christ
Homer and his Guide
La Charite.
La Nymphee


Lawrence Alma-Tadema


Spring
The Finding of Moses.
The Women of Amphissa
The Roses of Heliogabalus
Sappho and Alcaeus
Phidias Showing the Frieze of the Parthenon to his Friends
The Frigidarium
The Colosseum
Strigils and Sponges


John William Godward


A Greek Beauty
In the Prime of the Summer Time
Ionian Dancing Girl
The Old Old Story
A Flower Seller



Jean-Leon Gerome


The Christian Martyrs' Last Prayer
Thumbs Down
Phryné before the Areopagus
The Grief of the Pasha
Un Bain Maure - Femme Turque au Bain
The Serpent Charmer
Harem in the Kiosk
Heads of the Rebel Beys at the Mosque of El Hasanein, Cairo
Diogenes



Pierre Auguste COT


Springtime
The Storm
Young Maiden Reading a Book



Sir Frank Francis Bernard Dicksee


The Mirror
Startled


Paul DELAROCHE


The Execution of Lady Jane Grey
Girl in a Basin (Unfinished)
22 posted on 06/16/2002 6:57:09 PM PDT by vannrox
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To: AnAmericanMother

I LOVE the Hogarth!!!

My favorite are always when a painter can paint more real than real. Hogarth seems to do that. I love the life in his faces!

Thanks for the links!


68 posted on 04/14/2007 7:36:41 PM PDT by bannie
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