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All together now, Shrug!
Friday May 10th 2002 | Mad Dawgg

Posted on 05/10/2002 7:03:17 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg

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To: Mad Dawgg
My best summary of Ayn Rand is that she was right about what's wrong and wrong about what's right.

Her criticisms of many aspects of liberalism were very accurate. Her villians do not understand that we cannot consume what we do not produce, and ignoring this fact is a basic part of liberalism. The evasions that her villians go through to avoid facing the truth of what they are doing reminded me exactly of what Clinton defenders did to defend him and his policies.

Unfortunately, her beliefs about what makes the world work are completely wrong. Maybe others interpreted the book differently, but my impression was that fewer than 400 people inhabited "Galt's Gulch" and yet the loss of these 400 people plunged the United States into an economic crash. The notion that the loss of even our best 400 people would throw the country into a panic is silly. Most people are fairly hard workers and know their jobs. Losing a few people, particularly at the top, would not destroy most companies. Within the last ten or twenty years (if I remember correctly) a plane crashed killing the top five executives of Conoco, the big oil company. Many people expected the company to go into some kind of swoon without the top guys. The company mourned but never really missed a beat. What those executives know that Ms. Rand didn't is that a good executive clearly communicates plans and actions to those under him and is developing good people as replacements.

Another area where Ms. Rand is wrong about what's right is her fanatical hatred of God. She has the right not to believe in God and to speak her mind about the issue, but the extent to which she expressed this hatred would have been funny if it hadn't been so sad. Belief in God is not what makes people turn to the "looter" mentality. The Bible even teaches that if any man doesn't work, neither should he eat.

Another point on which I strongly disagree with Ms. Rand is the notion that a faithful wife who takes care of a home hasn't played a big part in her husband's success. One of the things that I found most disturbing in the book was that the engineer who had been John Gault's boss was working to create an economic crash but hadn't taken steps to save his widow from that crash. The implication is that Ms. Rand doesn't see the wife as a part of his success and instead sees her as another kind of "looter."

Atlas Shrugged is a good book. I've read it a couple of times. It has some good lessons even though they are overdrawn in some cases. It is also wrong on some points. I became a little tired of the idea that all heroes had blond hair and blue eyes. As a metallurgist, I have to suspend my disbelief at all of the things that she thinks a copper-iron alloy could do. I hope you enjoy the rest of the book.

WFTR
Bill

21 posted on 05/11/2002 9:21:06 AM PDT by WFTR
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To: r9etb
You read it 10 times and on the 11th time decided it was dull and shallow? Does that strike you as just a bit funny? - Sounds like a good book... Thanks for letting me know I should stop at 10 times.
22 posted on 05/11/2002 9:27:05 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: TLBSHOW
Ping for your take on the issue!
23 posted on 05/11/2002 2:31:21 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg
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To: JohnHuang2
Ping for your Opinion.
24 posted on 05/11/2002 2:33:46 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg
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To: John Galt
Of course I definitely need your Opinion on this one.
25 posted on 05/11/2002 2:38:20 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg
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To: JohnGalt
Or Maybe I should PING you with your actual name!

Tell us can we SHRUG Social Security?

26 posted on 05/11/2002 8:16:31 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg
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To: Mad Dawgg
Ayn was writing in the Industrial Age where confrontation with the Looters was the only means. As we enter the Information Age, the simple truth is that the returns on finding anonymous ways around the 'system' are far better than taking on the looters head on.

What many do not realize is that we have already 'won;' the looters were exposed on 9/11 as incompetents. The barbarians have entered the city; the Generals plot wars on the fringes of the empire and the Senators debate the price of corn in 2006.

It's over. Our efforts should not be focused on dealing with the past but on how we preserve our culture, our language and our Christian ethic in a world with out borders.

27 posted on 05/12/2002 6:47:19 AM PDT by JohnGalt
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To: Too_Bad
Hey your Link doesn't Work! Man what a Tease! Do you have that info stored and would you post it here again? I would really like to hear the story because I want to Shrug or Dropout also!
28 posted on 05/13/2002 12:53:13 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg
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