[NittanyLion]

refuse to talk in any policy,issue or debate.

A couple once tried to convince me that Bush couldn't have done anything to prevent CFR from becoming law, because only Congress and SCOTUS have a say in legislation. I kid you not, they had never heard of veto powers.

[BluesDuke]

A couple once tried to convince me that Bush couldn't have done anything to prevent CFR from becoming law, because only Congress and SCOTUS have a say in legislation. I kid you not, they had never heard of veto powers.

They also seem not to have heard of the oath of office, which the Constitution mandates that the President (as well as other elected representatives and officers) take upon assuming office, which binds the President implicitly to reject that which violates the Constitution plainly enough, as the CFR package most certainly did; unless, of course, your couple might have missed where a certain amendment, that not everyone (left or right) finds convenient all the time, mandates that Congress shall make no law...abridging freedom of speech, or of the press.... It was therefore the President's duty to veto that package, on those very grounds, and not merely shrug and say, "Oh, well, the Supremes can shoot it down, it's their job, anyway."