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To: HairOfTheDog; all
Well, for those unfamiliar with the details, this could make a few Freeper Ringers angry, so if you don't want a major spoiler for Two Towers and Return of the King, then don't read what comes next! I'll put it in hidden text, highlight to view it :

Ready?....Saruman DIES in the Two Towers. Yes, thats right, at the end of the movie Christopher Lee aka Saruman of Many Colors meets his doom. During a scene where Saruman, Wormtongue and the Fellowship encouter Saruman in the newly flooded surroundings of his sprawling Isengard fortress ( as seen in FOTR ), Wormtongue pushes Saruman. He falls, straight onto a large spikey wheel ( seens briefly during a fly past in FOTR ). A link to the an image of this scene can be found here: www.theonering.net/movie/scrapbook/large/526 . As Saruman turns on the wheel, the Palantir drops from his hand and into the water...

And yes, you guessed it, The Scouring of the Shire is NOT going to be in Return of the King in any way, shape or form whatsoever. Peter Jackson said just that a few months back in New York during a press conference at a book store.

Spoiler over!

5,683 posted on 05/19/2002 2:42:38 PM PDT by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora;Penny1;JenB;2Jedismom;Overtaxed;Corin Stormhands;ecurbh;BibChr;ksen...
Ooh - that is a lot more details than I had heard! I had only seen the photo before.

Hmm... well, maybe the group can have a good discussion about some of that! What are our Hobbit Hole rules going to be on TTT spoilers, even in the rumor stages? More and more are going to be coming! - are we really going to be as good about it as maquiladora has just been?

I say report 'em if you got 'em!... but I am easy that way!

5,685 posted on 05/19/2002 2:53:10 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: maquiladora; Hairofthedog; all
I think that this is one of the "possibilities," but there have been many conflicting reports about this part.

Spoiler talk follows (highlight to read):

For example, Ian McKellan has said things that imply that Saruman dies in TTT, but at the same time Christopher Lee has said he is in all three movies. So the reports are all contradictory.

Just something to keep in mind with spoilers--unless it comes from PJ himself, remember to take them all with a huge grain of salt. ;)

5,704 posted on 05/19/2002 3:47:18 PM PDT by Penny1
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