[Penny1]

It's always been intriguing to me just how much Saruman was able to do just by hinting around and making suggestions that tended to allay the suspicions of the council. Gandalf's instincts were right, but Saruman was so convincing, especially considering his position of authority. I have a feeling his "voice" came into play in this whole mess too....

[Overtaxed]

Don't know if anyone is still interested in Operation Wizard Bash, but I was trying to find out what Gandalf was doing between the time Bilbo found the ring (2941 Third Age) and when Frodo gets the ring.

Gandalf and Thorongil were battling the Corsairs fleet 40 years before the War of the Ring (2979).