What is ammonium sulfide ?

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[vinylsidingman]

I'm trying to help neighbor find out what his 17 old would be doing with several ampules of ammonium sulfide.

From what i've been able to find on the net this is not a very safe thing for teens, or anyone without experience to have.

Thanking freepers in advance for comments

vsm

[amom]

her? her, him. whichever applies. :-)

[vinylsidingman]

LOL Fun ain't we? Welcome to FR for your friend. Tell her thanks for being a good concerned parent and asking before taking action. Good luck to y'all. thanx amom,,
Now ,, if we could get the congress critters to seek advice here,,

hey,, if you're gonna wish ,, might as well wish GOOD,,,,

[spycatcher]

Yep the times have changed. Depending on the school, mere possession of a stink bomb may lead to suspension. They treat them just like an M-80.

[The Raven]

>>But it's also part of what mcveigh used in his bomb.

Sorry...that's ammonium nitrate (a fertilizer) and diesel fuel

[amom]

Now ,, if we could get the congress critters to seek advice here

LOL good point.

[capt. norm]

You are right...it is the common, garden variety stink bomb. It is not the same thing as is used in photo processing. Check the chemical name, especially the last part: ammonium sulfide, not to be confused with sulfates, thiosulfates, etc.

This suff breaks down into hydrogen sulphide (rotten egg gas) which escapes into the air. It takes only a minute trace of it to make an awful stench and in a confined space it can be poisonous. Humans and most mammals are repulsed by it as it is the scent of severly decomposed protein that is unfit to eat..possibly even toxic.

[gatex]

Ammonium sulfide uses--- Textile industry; photography (developers); coloring brasses, bronzes; iron control in soda ash production; synthetic flavors. [The Condensed Chemicl Dictionary ]

[CARDINALRULES]

Yes it can make someone very sick or even kill them if they are allergic to sulfites/sulfides.

My mom is and I have seen what happens, ranging from headaches to she almost died a few years ago.

[oneeye]

WRONG. He used amonium nitrate.

[Thumper1960]

sheesh! And to think back in the '70's, we took water pistols to school and messed around. The worst that happened was confiscation and a look of annoyance.

[mad_as_he$$]

Maybe just big words like Ammonia Nitrate!

[mad_as_he$$]

wasn't it nitromethane? Diesel can be used but nitro is moooey better!

[The Raven]

nitromethane??

I'm going by my memory of the news accounts.

[mad_as_he$$]

Yup just saw a "Headliner's and Legends" about Tim and they called it "the red accelerator liquid" that they mixed into the "explosive". Uncle Rangar Benson has a complete line of manuals on the subject. Palladin Press (I think is the name). Nitro is the stuff that dragsters run on. Hard to get without nine kinds of ID after Tim's little stunt. BTW IMO every true patriot should know how to make a bomb from the shelves at Home Depot in 15 minutes or less.

[sasquatch]

make a bomb from the shelves at Home Depot in 15 minutes or less.

NOT PC. .... device

Buffalo stew today. Sad.

[The Raven]

BTW IMO every true patriot should know how to make a bomb from the shelves at Home Depot in 15 minutes or less.

The libs [brown shirts] will close the Home Depots before they act.

[Smokin' Joe]

H2S is easily lethal. In the oil industry, 'sour' crude oil has some level of H2S, highest I know of was 32% (that's 320,000 PPM)--the well was plugged in spite of the good oil recovery on the test.

A concentration of 1000 PPM (0.1% in air) causes immediate paralysis of the respiratory tract and death if the victim is not removed from the H2S environs and revived. Lower concentrations have adverse effects with continued exposure. Threshold alarm limits are commonly set at 10-15 PPM on alert detectors, with high level alarms set at 25 to 40 PPM.

Diabolically, one of the symptoms of H2S poisoning is the loss of the ability to smell, (even the H2S), which is why those of us who may be exposed are trained to test for the gas after alarm threshhold levels have been reached. Gas monitors are used in locations where contamination is possible.

Most inhalation victims result from entering an enclosed, contaminated area such as a tank, although releases in refining and production facilities and on drilling floors and workover rigs have claimed some lives also.

H2S safety training is pretty much standard in much of the oil industry as well as around gas processing and refining facilities.

[carpenoctem]

I suppose you must not know chemistry. Ammonium sulfide is not what McVeigh used in his bomb. He used potassium nitrate.

Also, meth is not made from ammonium sulfide. It is made from ephedra, red phosphorus, and iodine. That's all. Sure, most manufacturers don't have access to pure chemicals so they have to extract it from things like cold pills and starter fluid, but ammonium sulfide doesn't figure into it.

Ammonium sulfide is a chemical commonly used to make stinkbombs, because it smells very strongly of farts or rotten eggs. A single ampule is probably enough for one.

Your neighbor's kid is not going to blow anything up, it's just a harmless practical joke. Chances are, he knows how to make the stuff, too, so don't bother confiscating it because he'll just make more anyway.