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I listened to Massie drone through his articles of impeachment against Pete Hegseth and I recognized the sickness immediately. We fought under this ridiculous worldview during GWOT, and it cost us dearly.
X.com ^ | Nov 9, 2026 | InfantryDort @infantrydort

Posted on 11/09/2026 1:18:35 PM PST by ransomnote

ransomnote: For Free Repubilc's language rules, I've replaced a word with '[redacted]'.

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Nah man. I’m not gonna let this go unchecked. As a GWOT veteran I can’t.

I listened to Massie drone through his articles of impeachment against Pete Hegseth and I recognized the sickness immediately.

We fought under this ridiculous worldview during GWOT, and it cost us dearly.

Massie is merely an acolyte of the bloodless bureaucratic religion that puts the lawyer in the center of the kill chain, treats every American use of force like a moral emergency, and somehow always finds more sympathy for the enemy being hunted than for the American sent to hunt him.

His whole speech I began wondering who he actually was speaking for, and that’s not good.

GWOT vets know EXACTLY where that road leads. Another approval. Another review. Another JAG opinion. Another commander afraid to make a decision because one bad headline will destroy his career faster than losing the fight ever could.

We were lectured for years about “courageous restraint.” We were told that killing one enemy might create ten more. We were taught to fear our own lethality while the enemy studied our hesitation.

And then we spent twenty years bleeding into the [redacted] sand.

So spare me the sermon about how dangerous it is to remove lawyers who think their job is to become a veto point over command. Spare me the sudden reverence for process from people who watched Afghanistan collapse, watched thirteen Americans die at Abbey Gate, watched the Taliban retake Kabul, and somehow found no constitutional apocalypse worthy of impeachment then.

Now the outrage is that the machine is actually being used. That commanders are expected to command. And that enemies are being treated like…. actual enemies for once.

That civilian leadership is telling the bureaucracy to get the hell out of the way of lawful military action.

From where I sit, the betrayal isn’t that Washington finally found some aggression for a chang. The realest betrayal is that men like Massie still think the lesson of the GWOT was that we needed more hesitation.

No. WE NEEDED MORE VICTORY.

And I’m done pretending those are the same thing. We’re all done with it. Massie is dead wrong here, he knows it, you know it, and I know it.

Sincerely,
-A seriously disgruntled GWOT vet who knows Hegseth is the cure to what ails our military here.



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To: cgbg
That is an insane claim—wild propaganda—zero proof.

So, you're high up in the Pentagon and have read all the classified intelligence, have ya? Impressive! So, what is a person with your top secret clearances doing posting on totally public news chat?

21 posted on 11/09/2026 1:55:11 PM PST by Albion Wilde (The first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens. --DJT)
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To: Dr. Franklin
Trump’s war with Iran

Trump inherited it but please, go stick your head back in the sand and send some pallets of cash to the Shiite Death Cult while you're at it.

22 posted on 11/09/2026 1:56:42 PM PST by Theophilus (Boots on the THROAT! COVFEFE!)
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To: cgbg

You were never in danger of being drafted, unlike the “boomers” you may blame.


23 posted on 11/09/2026 1:59:05 PM PST by ChessExpert (Infidels of the world unite against the evil that is Islam.)
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To: ransomnote

As Rand suggested, scratch a libertarian and there’s a hippie underneath.


24 posted on 11/09/2026 2:04:18 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: ransomnote
"Massie is merely an acolyte of the bloodless bureaucratic religion that puts the lawyer in the center of the kill chain, treats every American use of force like a moral emergency, and somehow always finds more sympathy for the enemy being hunted than for the American sent to hunt him."

So he's nothing but another Rand Paul, worrying about the rights of drug runners, and their identities when they get blown out of the water, plus wanting to allow illegals to stay here, if they haven't committed any crimes since they've been here. Of course he never says anything about the fact that they broke the law to come here, and continue to break that law every day they remain.

25 posted on 11/09/2026 2:10:03 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Carl Vehse
"Iran promised not to build a nuclear weapon over and over again."

And like DemocRATS, they lie every time their lips move.

26 posted on 11/09/2026 2:11:14 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: marktwain
"Trump never promised 'no war.'"

True. He said: “I’d love not to use” the U.S. military to attack Iran, “but sometimes you have to.”

27 posted on 11/09/2026 2:14:15 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: cgbg

Under what circumstances, as a thinking adult, would any adult conclude we would never take up arms, and what responsible President of the United States ever promise to “never have a “war” again”? When asked, he would elaborate and say “no new war” or “no endless war”.

And any “war” against Iran is not new, as they started any conflict in 1979 and have murdered thousands of American citizens since then.

To interpret anything he said in that fashion as “no war ever: is a wholly infantile and deliberate misinterpretation of ANY version of the truth.

Trump did, however say, on multiple occasions, he would not allow Iran to obtain nuclear weaponry.

He did indeed say that.

So, anyone who voted for him when he said there would be no forever wars, while also knowing that he said he would never allow Iran to have nuclear weaponry, is disingenuous at best, and at worst, deliberately obtuse for their own Leftist reasons...or an uninformed fool of the kind who swallows whole what the media and the Democrat Party state.

There are many on this website who I regard as just that intellectually enfeebled. If it isn’t their fault they believed what the media told them, then they shouldn’t be voting.


28 posted on 11/09/2026 2:27:14 PM PST by rlmorel (Gas prices are Temporary. Communism is Forever. Vote Republican.)
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To: Texas Eagle
Do demonicRATS have something on this Massie guy or is he just a natural born asshole?

The problem is that they get elected and go to Congress as our 'elected representative', and then start thinking they are better and smarter than the people that elected them.

29 posted on 11/09/2026 2:51:09 PM PST by voicereason (When a bartender can join Congress and become a millionaire...there’s a problem.)
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To: cgbg

Hey, Rip van Libturd, the WAR began Dec 4, 19798 when the Islamic Republic of Iran declared one and proceeded to prosecute that war for over 40 years without much resistance, just a lot of funding on the side from dementiacrats and other enemies of our Republic.

It’s NOT a new war, dipwad.

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/06/19/iranian-and-iranian-backed-attacks-against-americans-1979-present/


30 posted on 11/09/2026 2:51:33 PM PST by normbal (normbal. Non-native Tennessean.)
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To: cgbg

Hey, Rip van Libturd, the WAR began Dec 4, 19798 when the Islamic Republic of Iran declared one and proceeded to prosecute that war for over 40 years without much resistance, just a lot of funding on the side from dementiacrats and other enemies of our Republic.

It’s NOT a new war, dipwad.

https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/06/19/iranian-and-iranian-backed-attacks-against-americans-1979-present/


31 posted on 11/09/2026 2:51:35 PM PST by normbal (normbal. Non-native Tennessean.)
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To: Albion Wilde; marktwain; mass55th; Theophilus; cgbg; Dr. Franklin; McGruff; Jubal Harshaw; ...
It is pretty pathetic to hear these people out themselves on this forum as wholly unthinking swallowers of Leftist talking points and propaganda.

One can almost imagine them, falsely claiming to be conservatives, hearing Trump say "No more wars", and throwing up their hands in joy, exclaiming that we could then safely defund the military to reap a "peace bonus" and thinking there was going to be peace and prosperity.

Too bad there was no kind and understanding adult who could say gently and rationally inform them:

INNOCENT CHILD: Daddy, President Trump said there would be no war. Does that mean no men will ever kill other men again because he said it would be so?

DAD: Look, President Trump probably meant we will have no useless wars or no "forever wars" but you can be very sure he did not mean "no wars" at all. A President wouldn't say there would be "no wars" ever, would he? You know that. Even as a little boy, you know we don't live in that kind of world...you know that, don't you?

When he said there would be no wars, as you gain knowledge of the world, you will understand what President Trump meant. Everybody knows there will always be people who want to harm others, and normal, good people will have to fight back, right?

But, be warned, my son: if you become a Leftist, you will intentionally misinterpret that to mean that no man will ever threaten another man with violence, and that nobody will ever have to defend themselves again.

You don't want to be one of those ignoramuses, do you?

32 posted on 11/09/2026 3:02:46 PM PST by rlmorel (Gas prices are Temporary. Communism is Forever. Vote Republican.)
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To: Jubal Harshaw
Quit sermonizing an equality between the war with Iran and the recent wars. Trump promised no nukes for Iran, and he also promised no new wars. So we're in an unnecessarily war with Iran that's NOT a boots-on-the-ground type war. Clearly the Iran war is not like the prior wars.

IMHO that's a reasonable comprise to try to keep both promises that seem to run against each other. No nukes for Iran, and no boots on the ground war.

By the way, Iran started attacking our cargo ships going through the Suez Canal beginning in late 2023. That's the kind of thing reasonable Americans would go to war over since Biden's tit-for-tat responses didn't stop the attacks.

Obviously, in late 2023 Iran started the war, not Trump, who wasn't even in the WH. Is it safe to say that Biden's year's worth of on-again-off-again firing back at Iran's Houthi rebels in Yemen was Biden taking us into war? Or do we reserve that accusation for only Trump because the media told us to?

33 posted on 11/09/2026 3:15:38 PM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: ransomnote

I fell I wasted 22 years of my life in uniform killing al Qaeda and Taliban. Nearly four total years over in those sand pits doing whatever the leadership told me to do, always being held back.

I would get in trouble asking my commanders if they wanted me to go win this thing or just fly circles in the sky. I begged to be turned loose and I’d set the conditions for victory. I never got the chance, I was always restrained. I let enemy forces live because they were too close to a civilian structure. Like playing freeze tag and they were on base or something.

I watched Americans die. I worked on my guys who were wounded, one of which died. I have images in my head that will be there the rest of my life. For what? Nothing apparently. We weren’t allowed to win those wars, just like Vietnam.

Now, the country is running to socialism and tyranny. What did I waste my life in the Army for?


34 posted on 11/09/2026 3:28:01 PM PST by Nathan _in_Arkansas (Hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats. )
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To: Albion Wilde
"It's not the war that made our side lose the election. It's milquetoast Republicans."

The absolute truth.

35 posted on 11/09/2026 3:41:30 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: Texas Eagle

Do demonicRATS have something on this Massie guy or is he just a natural born asshole?
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We of gentler sensitivities prefer to refer to him as “sphincteral native”.


36 posted on 11/09/2026 3:43:06 PM PST by chickenlips (Evil never sleeps. Just look at Hakeem Jeffries' eyes.)
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To: chickenlips

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37 posted on 11/09/2026 3:44:34 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all. )
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To: ransomnote

Massie is such a despicable piece of shit, as are his best buds MTG and Tucker Carlson. Just repulsive humanoids - bereft of souls.


38 posted on 11/09/2026 4:03:49 PM PST by montag813
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To: Tell It Right

Ok, you’ve demonstrated that I didn’t make clear my point about the need to have Congress declare war in case of, well, war.

My point was, and is, that the President, the country, and pretty much everyone except for America’s enemies are better off if Congress declares war when appropriate.

Yes, it is about fidelity to the constitution ... and as a practical matter, a congressional declaration is about a lot more than that.

It’s also about getting a commitment from Congress members that they approve of the conflict. So that, if things need to escalate, the President / SOW / military CAN escalate without having to be limited to extremely limited actions in order to maintain plausible deniability that there’s a war occurring at all.

There’s a game theory issue here. It’s likely that the Iranians are willing to wait Trump out because they know that any major escalation by US forces will give Trump’s domestic enemies (even if those enemies would have supported military action before military action started) ammunition against him. That knowledge reduces their incentive to capitulate or even to bargain.

As I wrote upthread: we’ve been at war since at least 1979. Further, allowing an aggressively hostile group to develop nuclear weapons is existential madness.

Yes, existential. It’s believable that the permanent end of human civilization and of human life altogether may occur when aggressively hostile and hateful people get nuclear weapons. That’s a REALLY bad outcome, and must be opposed by any means necessary.

In the context of the world in which we live, using any means neccessary means getting Congress on board with declaring war, or at least with authorizing use of military force. Not just because the Constitution says so ... but because not getting Congressional authorization grossly hampers the war effort. As we see right now in Iran.

So I believe that the President, or his designates, needs to make the case to Congress that some sort of military authorization is a good idea. I don’t think anyone has seen the President strongly make that case. Frankly, I’ve been surprised that such a successful media star hasn’t forcefully made the case to the American people already. Especially since so many of the American people know that we’ve already been at war for decades. And since, unlike in other conflicts, there are PLENTY of Iranian expats in the US and all over the world who would love to help make the case that the mullahs must go. But ... the case to remove the mullahs has not really been vigorously argued by this president or anyone else high in the executive branch.

And so, we’re in the current predicament. Poked the hornet’s nest, and can’t destroy that nest while the hornets continue to sting us and our friends.

The most likely way out is for the president to get Congress on his side, perhaps by appealing to the people. This current path of blockading Iran while everyone believes that large scale use of military force will be blocked by Congress one way or another, doesn’t seem as likely to produce good results.


39 posted on 11/09/2026 4:15:37 PM PST by Jubal Harshaw
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To: ransomnote

Lord, confound the enemy on Sect. Hegseth’s and our behalf, I pray, in the Name of Jesus.


40 posted on 11/09/2026 4:36:24 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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