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Posted on 10/16/2026 1:23:53 AM PDT by SaveFerris
Why Digital ID is Dangerous
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The United Kingdom and China represent the future
Digital Surveillance and Control
/Captain Obvious
The philosophical and practical risk question in that video is on the money - if you’re minded to think that a certain political party, or its leadership, is utterly nefarious, how much control over your digital identity would you ever want to give it.
But there is an gloriously erroneous assumption right at the very top of the video, which is that the mere existence of digital ID that government can ISSUE or CONSUME is an inherent gateway for fascistic abuse because the government or police can spy on the ID at any time, with or without your knowledge or consent, OR because it can trawl a database, OR because they can put turnstiles up at protest locations and track who’s going through the digital gates.
Frankly, all of that is based on “legacy” approaches to digital identity - it is not how “self sovereign” identity works.
I’ve NEVER trusted the British government. I don’t support the idea of compulsory ID cards - physical OR digital. I want MY identity entirely in MY hands, under MY control, and kept in MY wallet. Whether it’s my bank card or my drivers’ license.
The UK government is an ISSUER of identity documents and unique IDs related to them. But that’s always been the case. Whether we’re talking about a passport number, driving license number, the unique reference numbers for tax and National Insurance, or the NHS numbers which get issued as part of birth registration.
But that isn’t all of what I’ve got in my wallet. And the risk of revocation extends beyond government. (My bank could de-bank me whether or not I’ve still got the card they issued, in my wallet.)
With self-sovereign identity, the issuer has no real way to track how often, or even where, you’re using your bank card or passport or driving license if it’s simply being used to pass a visual check. If there is a TRANSACTION using that document/ card, then there will be an audit trail. But that is VASTLY far more likely to benefit you (or serve your defense) as it is likely to be used as evidence against you.
Wherever you go for healthcare treatment in the UK, if you have an NHS number, you can simply use that number as a pointer. If, say, you get hit by a London bus and you’re in a coma, but your GP is in Manchester, the hospital needs to know about your allergies, medications, etc. but that info’s stored in the GP record. The only way the hospital cal see that info is if they can determine your NHS number (based on other identity attributes), then look you up, and then see which GP you’re registered at, and then ask that GP for the relevant information.
There is maybe a 0.001% chance that some asshole somewhere working in the NHS will abuse this mechanism. But the other 99.99% of the times it’s used, you BENEFIT from the use.
Does the NHS have patient consent for all this? Actually, yes, they do - AND we all could, if we were utterly masochistic, revoke our consent for a whole bunch of stuff. I could assert that I never, ever, want a blood transfusion for example.
But here’s the problem - a hospital outside of my home area CANNOT know about any of that (or anything else of equal importance) if it cannot use my NHS number to look at: my active consents / withdrawn consents, my allergies, my ongoing treatments, my long term conditions, my expressions of wishes, my living will, my Power of Attorney arrangements, etc.
So the best way to ensure EVERY hospital can honor my decisions as a patient, even if I’m in a coma, is if they all have my consent to use a common unique identifier. So even if you want to totally opt out of everything else, the common and guaranteed-person-unique NHS Number is still needed for a hospital outside of your own GP’s area to confirm you’ve made those opts-out.
That’s not a defense of fascism, it’s just a defense of basic common sense.
These days, I do have more than one wallet. There’s a physical one with bits of plastic in it, and there’s a digital one. While various banks, companies, and government ISSUE me with the bits of plastic, it ain’t the government, banks and companies who are telling me what to put in the wallet. That’s MY decision, not theirs.
And this exact same principle applies to digital identity IF DONE PROPERLY.
It’s called “self-sovereign identity”.
If the government wanted to revoke my driving license or passport or National Insurance number tomorrow, and it had unfettered fascistic powers, it could revoke them in the back ends. But that doesn’t actually stop me presenting the physical artefacts at the front end.
In the exact same way, my digital wallet has digital representations of my bank cards, driving license, passport. Unlike their physical counterparts, these items can only be presented by me - because my phone’s biometrics prevent anybody BUT me from presenting them.
Now, there are questions that arise in a challenge/response workflow where I want to use my bank card and the card has been declined arbitrarily by the bank. But if it’s been declined in the digital banking system I can’t bypass that by using the physical card instead of the digital one.
And that, essentially, is the fallacy at the heart of the objections around digital ID. The ID behind your passport or driving license is ALREADY digital and it’s THAT back end that’s susceptible to abuse.
Putting a plastic card in your hands, currently, gives you the ILLUSION of control in the back end, but you only control the front end.
Self-sovereign identity extends your control over the front end AND (if adopted correctly) gives you greater oversight of abuses in the back end.
It’s definitely coming - nothing will stop it from happening
who will be in power remains to be seen
It’s going to come for a whole variety of reasons, not all of which are obvious to the layperson; and it is very easy to fall into the trap of arguing for “throwing out the baby with the bath-water” if one doesn’t have the complete picture.
It’s very much like the whole debate around voter ID.
How can you detect when a person DOESN’T have the right of residence, and doesn’t have the right to vote, and has simply overstayed on a student visa and got some dodgy spiv to run off some fake ID, if you DON’T have verified digital identity and DON’T have “reasonable suspicion” or “probable cause” sufficient enough to trigger a deeper inspection?
The uncomfortable answer is, you can’t.
Even if we did roll back governance all the way back to how things used to work in 1981, where everything was done on paper and plastic, we cannot ignore the fact that the tech to create the physical paperwork in 1981 is, by modern standards, insanely primitive.
Anyone with access to a $200 printer can now knock out totally convincing counterfeits that’d pass any manual check. If you present that to a doorman who’s distracted, or an inattentive official, you can blag your way into buildings and get hold of other stuff. Without much effort, it’s possible to layer up, so you might start with a fake drivers’ license and a fake birth certificate but end up with a massive file of “genuine” evidence all issued on the assumption the fake papers were real.
So, in effect, a completely libertarian and anti-technology posture needs constraints, otherwise it becomes totally unenforceable in practice.
(a) 90% of the time you NEED someone to think “that person’s photo ID card might be dodgy” the people you’re relying on will automatically assume it’s legit - especially if they think the photo ID is really sophisticated and difficult to forge, or if the person presenting the fake ID understands “social engineering” and can blag it.
(b) 9% of the time, when they decide it needs checking, they’re basing that decision entirely on woolly grounds - they’ve got a hunch, or they hold a prejudice, or they’re simply following a profile.
(c) Maybe only 1% occurs as the result of actual detected wrongdoing or a definitive reason to be suspicious - but if you’ve eroded the ability to detect, you’re relying on the carelessness of the wrongdoer to give you grounds for suspicion.
All of this is NOT NEW. Banks introduced Chip and PIN because cloning a card and faking a signature was ludicrously easy to do, and often impossible to detect. Banking apps for smartphones now have biometric tie-ins because Chip and PIN ain’t strong enough to stop someone who’s intercepted your long card number and CVC from being literally able to empty your bank account with fraudulent transactions.
If anyone tries to buy anything with MY bank details, without my knowledge, they’ll get unstuck. Because I get a ping on my phone, from my banking app, in effect saying “Is this definitely you?”
I even have a similar set up for my property records the Land Registry. If anyone tries to access my property title and deeds, even if they’re impersonating me while doing it, I get an alert on my phone. At their end, there’s a default “deny unless I authorise” workflow in place. As this isn’t even linked to my mobile phone number, a hacker can’t simply clone my SIM and intercept the messages to bypass this security.
The next iteration of my private healthcare app is ALSO going to support a feature like this. If a clinician attempts to access my medical records and I’m not actively participating in a treatment / consultation exercise with that clinician, it’ll actually ask me, do I permit this.
THOSE WORKFLOWS ARE IMPOSSIBLE TO IMPLEMENT WITHOUT VERIFIED DIGITAL ID.
Interesting observations you have.
Fraudulent Digital ID will continue to evolve as well as it eliminates all the risks of the “primitive physical paperwork.” IOW ... fraud will not be eliminated. I might argue that being a victim of digital fraud is more difficult to correct than being a victim of paperwork fraud.
While I have not thought this through yet, a combination of “primitive physical paperwork” + digital ID transactions + stiffer punishments for fraud might be a better approach to reducing fraud risk and ensuring individual freedom to live one’s life in today’s world.
A digital ID in the internet age was always going to make perfect sense to the world when it arrived. But the world has survived thousands of years without it and the web of control that comes with it will be all too real. Now it has somehow become critical according to them that we all arrive there and be in a hurry about getting there.
I’ve shared this story before:
Back in the 1980s I was sitting around a large round table having lunch with some very smart folks (six) and we somehow got into a discussion about the future “Mark of the Beast” and what it could be.
I was making the argument that it was clear from the Bible that cash would one day be done away with and all ‘buying and selling’ would be done with numbers and (obviously using computers I declared). We talked about driving through the California desert and needing to buy gas, we would need cash, where they only had Visa credit cards (where even mom and pop shops would use the handheld machines to make a paper copy)
I said I didn’t know how it would come about mechanically, but that it would one day arrive just as we’re told in the Bible it would.
While they didn’t laugh or were disrespectful, none were convinced and they just left it at how there was no way cash would ever go away. I politely disagreed.
In the early 1990s when the Internet first arrived, I knew immediately what I was looking at, this was the global connectivity piece of the ‘buying and selling’ computer mechanism that had been missing earlier.
A few years later, in 1997 I found it very interesting watching a program on television (C-Span I think) and it was about the first modern computer ENIAC built in 1947, this was its 50th anniversary.
As the reporter walked around the glass display with the camera following after, he was commenting on the 18,000 vacuum tubes and about the overall size being as large as a room. At the same time he was speaking off camera to the Museum Historian and gesturing at the parts saying finally āso this was the first Computerā and the Historian immediately corrected him and said:
‘No’ this actually wasnāt the Computer, and in fact **the Man** operating it WAS “the Computerā.
I was taken aback and sat up straight in my chair. I did not know this, had never heard this before, but I did know (again) what I had just heard.
I’ve told people for years, that somehow the Computer would become the ‘image that speaks’ and manages the buying and selling technology required for anti-Christ to rise up to power with.
All these years later the idea of AGI or an AI algorithm managing and monitoring us 24 hours a day in real-time is no longer wild speculation or future sci-fi technology. The footprint of the ‘images’ are everywhere, we call them TVs, iPads, iPhones, PC displays, touchscreens, quantum computers. To be used in conjunction with future mandatory Digital IDs, Vax IDs, CBDCs and surveillance state flock cameras and so on.
Compute:
In the Greek, āto calculate, to countā the number of the beast, to compute: ĻĪ·ĻĪ¹ĢĪ¶Ļ pseĢphizoĢ
āAnd he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.ā -Revelation 13:15-18
The law of first mention in the Bible is where what we call something, whether we change the name later or not, this is what God will always call it. So the word āComputerā was originally meant for man, and whatever it may become later on, it is āthe number of a man.ā So I knew back then we would one day see some form of computer artificial intelligence manifest to such a degree far into the future to be able to speak or reason on its own, not merely some repeating electronic voice recording.
I believe this future AI algorithm is what the WEF and the Davos globalist intend to use to manage their global economic resources in their coming Marxist CCP style control model. Where they believe it will now succeed by redistributing wealth and resources (fairly) where all other attempts have failed. They are already using it to wage war.
In English:
Computer = 666 where A=6, B=12, C=18 . . etc,
Jesus Messiah = 888
Also in Greek:
Jesus = ihsous i=10 + h=8 + s=200 + o=70 + u=400 + s=200 = 888
Whatever it is or will be, we still need the right global conditions and/or economic upheaval to institute this new global monetary system.
Today, most of the infrastructure is already in place, they just need the correct magnitude of real or manufactured crisis events to bring the world globally into it. Using wars, rumors of wars, plagues or economic upheaval etc., any or all at once could do it overnight.
The future “Man of sin” is clearly shown from scripture that “He” alone will be the one who requires everyone to “receive” it. Where it is not valid before that time as a means of separating us from God in Heaven. But after, once he is revealed, it will become a line in the sand that cannot be crossed by believers. ALL who receive ‘his’ mark will be cast into the Lake of Fire at the bodily return of Jesus to this Earth.
Satan is not in control of the timing. But the infrastructure and technology always had to be worked out, dreamed up, imagined and then built out in advance.
I suspect those same people sitting around the lunch table that day would now be making the same argument to me that I made to them. But would they also see it as the fulfillment of Bible prophecy? Maybe not, for many it’s like a frog boiling in a pot, all seems to be progressing normally as it should be, as if there is nothing new under the sun, nothing unexpected or surprising to be found.
Perhaps only a trip through time into the future from that day in 1987 would be the shocker moment overcoming their normalcy bias.
Jesus said the night is coming when no man can work. It is important for us to talk about these things now, today and openly while we still can. One day we will all be shutdown and silenced and I believe that day is not far away.
[and the web of control that comes with it
will be all too real.]
People will be praising it. Just watch.
[The future āMan of sinā is clearly shown from scripture that āHeā alone will be the one who requires everyone to āreceiveā it.]
Technically I think it will be the False Prophet who forces it but I understand what you’re saying.
God bless you āļøāļøāļø
AI Overview:
In Revelation 13:16 on Bible Gateway, the phrase “And he causeth all” refers to the Second Beast (also known as the False Prophet), who serves the First Beast from the sea.
An interesting notion.
FWIW, Revelation is quite open to interpretation depending on who’s reading it, and when, and what their biases are. Example: 666 is not the only place where the “number of a man” is described as such in the Bible; it is also how Solomon was described in 1 Kings 10:14:
“Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold.”
If one cherry-picks on it - the ostentatious use of gold by Solomon, the gold kept in a forest in Lebanon, and this:
“Beside that he had of the merchantmen, and of the traffick of the spice merchants, and of all the kings of Arabia, and of the governors of the country.”
And this: “Beside that he had of the merchantmen, and of the traffick of the spice merchants, and of all the kings of Arabia, and of the governors of the country.”
And, whoever the false Messiah is in Revelation, he outwardly appears to be as wise AND as rich as Solomon - enough for even the pious to be fooled.
So what does the “give life unto the image of the beast” represent? I don’t think it represents AI. It could be a person who controls AI, or directs it to portray ‘the beast’; a man who creates AI avatars.
Or, a man who is considered rich and wise; a man who demands absolute political loyalty from those around him; a man who is regarded as a visionary, and a man who people want to do business with; a man who dazzles his followers with gold and promises of gifts.
Or, it could be both. A man who also presides over a system where “his mark” (or maybe his approval?) determines if you can trade or not.
The effect of all of that is covered in 2 Thessalonians.
Yes, you’re correct, I was merely commenting from the mountain top.
This is first a Spirit at work that will coalesce into a Beast system and ultimately manifest itself into a man. Nazi Germany provided a recent example, a beast system and demonic spirit and yet it was manifested into a single man at the same time for its power and authority. It needed Hitler to continue.
The False Prophet enforces the Mark, or the Name or the Number of the name requirement.
The first Beast rises up out of the Sea, while the False Prophet rises up out of the Earth, I think we’re being shown these things to later more completely perceive their identities and operations. Typically in scripture it can be argued that Sea = gentile nations, Earth = Israel. These are clearly a duo working together.
My 50,000ft take on the Book of Revelation. It is all from Gods perspective in Heaven, it is what God sees when he looks, it is what the Spirit sees and it is neither sealed up nor hidden but rather obscured to our flesh by our mostly out-of-focus time domain restricted spiritual myopia. Only the Seven Thunders and what they said was specifically sealed, but there are still plenty of clues provided even for that.
Agree there is much more,
The number 666 is a repeating authority, appearing as synchronicity as how the authority of that Spirit works, always repeating to evidence its power.
1) Solomonās tribute, (Commerce)
2) Nebuchadnezzars statue (Image of worship)
3) the sons of Adonikam, (Understanding)
āNow the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold, ā - 2 Chronicles 1:14
āNebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof six cubits: he set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon.ā - Daniel 3:1
āThe children of Adonikam, six hundred sixty and six.ā - Ezra 2:13
āAnd of the last sons of Adonikam, whose names are these, Eliphelet, Jeiel, and Shemaiah, and with them threescore males. ā - Ezra 8:13
āThen sent I for Eliezer, for Ariel, for Shemaiah, and for Elnathan, and for Jarib, and for Elnathan, and for Nathan, and for Zechariah, and for Meshullam, chief men; also for Joiarib, and for Elnathan, men of understanding.ā - Ezra 8:16
These are repeating authorities until it is fulfilled once and for all at the time of the end on a much larger scale as a witness to a much larger audience,
āAnd the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.ā - Ezekiel 9:4
Many donāt realize that in the book of Revelation, it is God who first marks his people in their foreheads, I do not believe it is visible to the flesh.
āAnd I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.ā - Revelation 7:2-3
Satan is nothing more than a deceiver and counterfeiter.
If he can also claim the same āChi Xi Stigmaā symbols on the forehead and right hand with some Islamic script for his jihadi demonic ISIS locust horde, so be it, heāll take that too,
But it will come that Satanās authority (in) this Earth is being acknowledged and required for those appointed to him to live abundantly for a short time, 42 months. To buy and sell in his world they will be required to acknowledge allegiance to him whether in their thoughts (actually believing the lie) or by the action of doing it (in the hand) and merely because some think they have no choice but to go along, but they do have a choice and that choice is to die and in doing so become a witness for God against this evil system attempting to usurp the inheritance of the Earth away from the Owner of the Vineyard and his Son.
I believe this is how demonic spirits, principalities and powers in this world operate, and it is a spiritual marker where so many seemingly unrelated events and things work together to acknowledge the Word of God and where it cannot be otherwise because it is his will that it should become known to those on the Earth in this manner. Whereby those who will not wake up before this day, may now yet wake up and live.
The choice is stark, take the Mark and you are choosing Satan and rejecting Christ, there is no third option. I think also that it must be in some manner obvious for the punishment to be meted out so severe and immediate to those who receive it. Or I’m beginning to suspect there is an altering component like a future DNA vaccine that changes those receiving it. A hybrid Genesis 6 Nephilim factor as in the days of Noah.
āAnd the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.ā - Revelation 14:9-11
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