Zelensky thought he could keep bombing Russian refineries after Trump told him to stop and he could gain leverage in the “negotiations.” But he’s completely misunderstanding what’s actually happening. There are no more “negotiations.”

X.com ^ | October 14, 2026 | JoeLange @JoeLange

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The “Liddle” Ukrainian dictator is now experiencing the FO part of the equation.

He thought he could just keep playing games.

The GAME is over.

Zelensky and the Iranian regime are the same.
Both dictators who are still playing by the old rules.

But the rules have completely changed.

Zelensky still thinks he has “leverage.”
He doesn’t know what “leverage” really is.

He thought he could keep bombing Russian refineries after Trump told him to stop and he could gain leverage in the “negotiations.”

But he’s completely misunderstanding what’s actually happening.

There are no more “negotiations.”
Trump gave Zelensky that opportunity over a year ago and he refused.
It’s no longer a “peace negotiation.”
Now it’s a “surrender negotiation.”

People will never learn.

When Trump offers you a deal and a way out of your mess, you better take that first deal because the next ones will only be worse.

We now live in the Age of Consequences.

Zelensky defied Trump’s “energy ceasefire” and now he’ll suffer the consequences.

Elon just massively limited Ukraine’s Starlink access.

“Ukrainian military’s access to Starlink satellite internet suddenly restricted”

“Outage of terminals managed by Elon Musk’s SpaceX comes as Russia launches ballistic missiles at Ukraine without any advance warning from US.”

Now, Zelensky can no longer target Russian refineries with his drones and he’s also defenseless against Russian attacks because we aren’t sharing intelligence.

“Limiting Starlink’s access speeds would have a significant effect on Ukraine’s air defences because it is being used, according to Beskrestnov, in “the most current effective solution”: interceptors that target the jet-powered Shahed drones now deployed in large numbers to bomb Ukraine.”

“With their actions our partners are depriving us of one of the few chances we have to defend ourselves,” he added in a follow-up post. Shahed interception rates had already dropped from more than 90% to about 60% when Russia upgraded their engines to jet power in the early summer.”

https://theguardian.com/world/2026/oct
/14/ukraine-soldiers-combat-access-starlink-satellite-internet-restricted

Now Zelensky will have to surrender even more territory.

But he doesn’t care.
He doesn’t care how many Ukrainians die or how bad his country is destroyed because he knows that when the war ends, he will face justice.

Trump will keep upping the ante now and isolating Zelensky.

Focus on his corruption incoming.

October 14, 2026

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[ransomnote]

The Guardian article linked to the image is a NATO mess. It contradicts itself throughout the text so that it is finally hard to know what point it is making.

Other related articles to the linked Guardian piece say things like "Trump is on a collision course with Zelensky," or NATO. I don't think that's possible in that an aircraft carrier does not really concern itself with row boats in the vicinity. The Guardian still write about NATO/Zelensky as if Trump hasn't passed them by.

I think this x.com post is correct in the NATO/Zelensky strategy, and in stating that the options they want are no longer on the table. I remember the articles worrying that Zelensky would lose more territory if he refused earlier negotiations, and I think that's where it stands now. The Guardian website says the UK 'stands by Zelensky.' I believe that's because Zelensky is the only one willing to continue the war, in order to save himself.

[USA-FRANCE]

The first thing Putin did after Trumps “Energy Ceasefire” announcement, was to double down on hitting Ukrainian energy infrastructure with ballistic missiles.

And now Russia is hitting American businesses in Ukraine like never before.
Russia is pizzing on America - and America just takes it and says nothing…

Weakness.

[montag813]

Zelensky and the Iranian regime are the same.

Ok, no matter what you think of Zelensky, this statement is idiotic.

[stanne]

As I asserted to a barrage of flame last week, Z has no leverage.

[tlozo]

When Trump offers you a deal and a way out of your mess, you better take that first deal because the next ones will only be worse.

What deal was Z supposed to take? Spell out this AMAZING deal Ukraine was supposed to take. Putin from the beginning and till now, is always making maximum demands from Ukraine, demands that are in effect a surrender.

Putin Demands:

Russia has demanded no NATO for Ukraine and no other alliances.

Russia demands Ukraine cede the entirety of the four provinces Moscow claims as part of Russia, including areas still held by Ukraine.

Russia demands Ukraine demilitarize: limit army to 60,000 limits on number of tanks, artillery, planes and no missiles.

Russia demands Ukraine establish the Russian language as a co-official language.

Russia demands Ukraine to denazify, basically stop being Ukrainian.

Russia demands Ukraine reestablish the Moscow led Orthodox Church in Ukraine. The same one that declared a Holy War against Ukraine.

Russia demands a change in the leadership of Ukraine. I guess demanding a puppet government to be installed.

Russia demands changes to Ukrainian's constitution.

Russia demands Western peacekeeping troops are never allowed into Ukraine.

And Russia keeps adding to this list saying the "root causes" of this conflict have to be addressed.

If Ukraine agreed to this surrender it would end up disarmed and without allies, completely defenseless to Putin's next invasion.

[tlozo]

“Outage of terminals managed by Elon Musk’s SpaceX...Now, Zelensky can no longer target Russian refineries with his drones

Author is ignorant. Ukraine could never use Starlink over Russia, including attacks on Russian refineries, it only works over Ukrainian territory.

[Miami Rebel]

“Zelensky and the Iranian regime are the same.”

Deepening ties between Russia and Iran have been improving prospects for both countries on their respective battlefields, from Ukraine to the Middle East.

Shahed-136 drone designs that Iran shared with Russia in late 2022, and upgraded variants that have been mass-produced ever since by Moscow, have transformed Russia’s war against Ukraine. In August, Russia launched a record 2,800 jet-powered drones – their speed making them harder to shoot down than earlier versions.

And as Iran retaliated against a joint U.S.-Israeli attack, covert Russian satellite intelligence helped Iran’s missiles and drones deliver destructive blows against expensive American radar and military bases across the Middle East. The Pentagon counts $3.7 billion in “equipment losses” alone, with “hundreds of buildings” also wrecked by Iran.

[Arkady]

Let me help you out. Trump offered him the chance to do something besides lead his country to destruction.
You say “Russia demands a puppet gov’t be installed...”. I’d say they have had a puppet gov’t for quite a while, Z was installed by the CIA.
You say they demand they denazify. Well yeah, Ukraine is full of neo-nazis. Before the war Ukraine was known as the money-laundering capital of the world and they are home to CIA bio-weapon labs. But you’re worried Putin doesn’t want Nato and the CIA on his very doorstep? Contested areas are full of ethnic Russians.
Z is as corrupt as they come, has made himself a fortune, part of which he was funneling back to biden. He has cancelled elections, declared martial law, started forced conscriptions, banned the oppo press and the church. He’s a real Abe Lincoln that guy.
Letting Nato sit on Russia’s doorstep was never part of Nato’s charter, it’s the equivalent of the US letting the Soviets sit in Cuba in the 60’s.
I’m all out of crayons and finger puppets, you’re on your own.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

(((PING!)))

To be added to the zeeper follies pinglist, 
ping me bro... we need laughter!

[Texas Eagle]

Both sides are led by madmen.

[tlozo]

Trump offered him the chance to do something ...Well yeah, Ukraine is full of neo-nazis...banned the oppo press and the church

Yep, another one who opines of the GREAT deal offered without specifying its exact terms, which were a surrender demand by Putin.

Sure, Ukraine has so many nazi's, Zelensky a Jewish president was elected by 73% of the vote and now they are fighting ferociously to defend his presidency for almost 5 years.

Only opposition press that was shut down was funded by the Kremlin, including the Moscow run Orthodox Church that called for Ukraine's destruction in a "Holy War".

[Gunslingr3]

He doesn’t care how many Ukrainians die or how bad his country is destroyed because he knows that when the war ends, he will face justice.

Why would he face justice when he can just flee to Israel like his buddy Timur Mindich and never be spoken of again?

[lodi90]

It’s always hilarous to Democrat “Nazi” smears about Republicans recycled about Ukrainians who also defend their national borders, language and culture from invaders. A lot of hobbyist nationalists supporting colonialist Moscow from their armchairs are apparently very stupid people.

[mewzilla]

No, it’s not.

Different Deep States, but they have the same agenda.

They want the annihilation of our republic.

[Engraved-on-His-hands]

Letting Nato sit on Russia’s doorstep was never part of Nato’s charter, it’s the equivalent of the US letting the Soviets sit in Cuba in the 60’s.

Actually, Russia is bordered by six NATO countries--seven if you count the United States via the Bering Strait. Ukraine not becoming a member of NATO won't change that.

[Miami Rebel]

Putin’s boots are tasty!

[Arkady]

Putin’s boots...at least he doesn’t play the piano with his p*nis.

[Arkady]

So it sounds like Nato should just make them a member. Why haven’t they?

[Miami Rebel]

I wasn’t advising you to lick anything other than his boots.

[Allegra]

I wondered why Joe Lange was even linking that Guardian article.

I posted Lange’s X post earlier as a comment and one of the zeepers immediately started jumping up and down, yip-yapping, and looking for ankles to bite. 😄

Lange is spot on, though.