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To: PIF

Uh, it was around the year 880 when Oleg of Novgorod, a Varangian brigand, captured Kiev, which is generally considered the beginning of the Kievan Rus, i.e. the beginning of Russia.


31 posted on 10/02/2026 2:15:45 PM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Regulator

it was around the year 880 when Oleg of Novgorod, a Varangian brigand, captured Kiev, which is generally considered the beginning of the Kievan Rus, i.e. the beginning of Russia.
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Nope.

Russia did not become Russia until Peter the “Great” decided that Moscovia was an inadequate name for his county’s greatness, and stole the name ‘Rus’ from the then long vanished Kivian Rus’ Empire which was, on modern maps, Ukraine.


37 posted on 10/03/2026 5:07:54 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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