[Empire_of_Liberty]

Good vanity.

I would only point out that your thinking is two-dimensional, not three. In reality, concepts appear to be circular. Nature (God) is not wasteful. Concepts, which appear to have extremes, as in a spectrum, are circular, in fact. The most ardent Leftist and the most ardent Rightest share the same worldview.

Man is a complex animal. He must exist both as an individual and as part of a collective.

Actually, this is no surprise, at all, as this allows for his dominance. Who can survive against a species that is master of both?

[rlmorel]

That is all true, FRiend because in the end, the only "binary" in this is: Is what God designed in us and our world right or wrong? God cannot make mistakes. So the problem lies in us, because we don't sometimes know what God intended as the "right" thing.

And that is where we fall off this path. To me, the issue of Transgenderism is an example of something in which God is right and anyone who pushes the concept you could be "born into the wrong body" is...flat out wrong. God is never wrong. Your soul was put into that body by God. And God had a very specific purpose and reason for doing that.

"...Actually, this is no surprise, at all, as this allows for his dominance. Who can survive against a species that is master of both?..."

To this I say, our own life, our own liberty, and our own pursuit of happiness are our unalienable rights given to us by God. and Collectivists seek to remove my life, my liberty, and my pursuit of happiness to reach their goals.

In the case of the collectivists like Mao and Stalin, they took as a form of political action the individual Lives of hundreds of millions of people who did not conform to their collective goals, such as the Kulaks that Stalin starved to death, or the tens or hundreds of millions that Mao murdered as part of his Great Leap Forward.

The collectivists also want you to sacrifice YOUR individual Liberty to their goals. Don't drive cars, take busses. Don't work in this profession. Work in the profession the collective needs from you. Don't eat meat, it is wasteful to the collective. Eat bugs instead for protein. For the good of the collective.

And to the collectivists, your individual pursuit of happiness is completely subordinated by the happiness of the collective.

So in all those things...if we take them as God-Given, then Conservatives are more "Right" and Leftists (Collectivists) are more "wrong" overall.

Good points...good discussion.