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What happens when Uber drivers buy Cybercabs? The math is BRUTAL - Cybercab,Waymo,Uber side-by-side!
YouTube ^ | 09/09/2026 | BestInTESLA

Posted on 09/09/2026 11:49:58 AM PDT by SmokingJoe

Is the Cybercab cheaper than Waymo? Will Uber drivers lose jobs? What makes the Cybercab efficient? Summarise the video

This video from Best in Tesla argues that Tesla’s upcoming Cybercab will significantly outperform competitors like Waymo and disrupt Uber’s current business model by offering a more cost-effective and efficient autonomous ride-hailing service.

Key Takeaways:

Cost Efficiency: The video estimates the Cybercab will cost approximately $17,500 to produce, compared to an estimated $100,000 for a Waymo robotaxi (1:23 - 2:49). This results in a massive gap in depreciation costs per mile (3:00 - 3:19).

Operational Simplicity: Unlike Waymo, the Tesla Cybercab does not rely on LiDAR or high-definition mapping, reducing both hardware costs and energy consumption (5:47 - 6:26).

Market Impact on Uber: The creator contends that Uber’s business model, which often includes a 30% commission on top of ride costs, will struggle to compete with a service that provides a more luxurious, cheaper, and safer experience (6:45 - 8:45).

The Future for Drivers: The video suggests that current Uber drivers would be better off purchasing their own Cybercabs and operating them on the Tesla network. It models that owners could potentially earn more than their current hourly wages while doing less manual labor (10:10 - 13:56).

Luxury and Safety: The Cybercab features a 22-inch touchscreen, integrated entertainment (Netflix/YouTube), and is described as a luxurious, first-class experience (7:16 - 7:50), while also addressing safety concerns regarding human-driven ride-hailing services (9:16 - 10:06).

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KEYWORDS: cybercab; elonmusk; lyft; tesla; uber; waymo

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1 posted on 09/09/2026 11:49:58 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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I’m holding out waiting for a ‘Johnny Cab’.


2 posted on 09/09/2026 11:53:15 AM PDT by captmar-vell
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But does it have that nifty feature of self locking doors combined with battery ignition....just askn for a FRiend.


3 posted on 09/09/2026 11:54:23 AM PDT by spokeshave ( Angry Dads. Grumpy Grandads, Curmudgeons, old Geezers & Cancer survivors.)
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Tesla Cybercab does not rely on LiDAR or high-definition mapping

What does it rely on? Being heavy enough to just push stuff out of the way?

4 posted on 09/09/2026 11:57:32 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: captmar-vell
Grok:

Johnny Cab is the robotic taxi driver (and the automated cab service) from the 1990 science-fiction film Total Recall, directed by Paul Verhoeven and starring Arnold Schwarzenegger.

totalrecall.fandom.com

In the movie, Johnny Cabs are self-driving taxis featuring an android-like head and upper body that interacts with passengers. The character has a cheerful, somewhat cheesy personality—he introduces himself (“Johnny Cab!”), makes small talk, and even whistles. He's voiced by Robert Picardo (best known as The Doctor from Star Trek: Voyager), whose face was also used as the model for the animatronic/puppet design.

slashfilm.com

The concept draws from Philip K. Dick's 1966 short story “We Can Remember It for You Wholesale” (the basis for the film), which includes a robot cab driver. In the movie, the Johnny Cab scenes provide comic relief and advance the plot: Quaid (Schwarzenegger) rides one after leaving Rekall, later hijacks another while fleeing, and (after not paying) the cab dramatically self-destructs while still trying to be polite.

totalrecall.fandom.com

It's become a memorable bit of 1990s sci-fi pop culture, often referenced in discussions of autonomous vehicles or AI personalities. Other real-world uses of the name (a Honolulu taxi service, a restaurant, a band, etc.) exist but are unrelated to the iconic film reference.

5 posted on 09/09/2026 12:01:08 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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Sorry I couldn’t resist,

Better than a BTTT though :-)


6 posted on 09/09/2026 12:02:59 PM PDT by captmar-vell
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To: fruser1

“What does it rely on?”

Advanced cameras/super smart AI.


7 posted on 09/09/2026 12:04:09 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

I think Johnny Cab was a little, dare I say, light in the loafers….


8 posted on 09/09/2026 12:05:52 PM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show host to me.... Sting)
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Only used cabs sporadically in my life. Since Uber and Lyft came alone I’ve never used either. An unmanned cyber cab I’m gonna wait and see before I ever use one. Do we have to tip it?


9 posted on 09/09/2026 12:07:51 PM PDT by xp38
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Nope.


10 posted on 09/09/2026 12:11:55 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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Btw, there have been 65 deaths attributed to Teslas engaged in self-driving mode. Just saying.


11 posted on 09/09/2026 12:16:50 PM PDT by montag813
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Tesla Cybercab Robotaxi In 10 Minutes | Tutorial, Specs & Engineering

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYN6FYNMDAI

12 posted on 09/09/2026 12:22:39 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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What does it rely on? Being heavy enough to just push stuff out of the way?

Seeing. Literally.

Tesla's self-driving system sees the world using eight external cameras and advanced computer vision to build a live 3D map of its surroundings.

13 posted on 09/09/2026 12:28:19 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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Grok:

“Key context and caveats

These are Level 2 driver-assistance systems (Autopilot and FSD Supervised), not unsupervised/true self-driving. Tesla requires the driver to remain attentive and ready to take over at all times.
“Attributed to” / “involving” usually means the system was engaged (or reported engaged) near the time of the crash—not that the software was definitively at fault or the sole cause. Many incidents involve driver inattention, misuse outside the system's design domain, other vehicles, or additional factors. NHTSA reports do not assign legal causation.
Official NHTSA Standing General Order (SGO) data (manufacturer-reported crashes where ADAS was engaged within ~30 seconds of a serious incident) shows somewhat lower Tesla-linked fatality counts in recent analyses—typically in the mid-to-high 50s (e.g., ~56–57 in 2026 compilations by sites analyzing the public SGO dataset). There is a known gap between broader trackers (which include claimed cases and media reports) and stricter verified-engagement tallies.

autopilotwatch.com

Absolute numbers are higher for Tesla than other manufacturers largely because Tesla has by far the largest fleet and the most miles driven with these systems active. Rates per mile are a separate (and contested) debate.

In short, the specific number 65 matches a well-known public tracker of Autopilot/FSD-involved Tesla fatalities. The claim is directionally accurate, though the systems are supervised assistance features rather than full self-driving, and “attributed to” does not automatically equal “caused by.” Figures continue to be updated as more crash data becomes available.”

Worth pointing out these are not Cybercabs, but just normal Teslas with FSD of which there are millions.

14 posted on 09/09/2026 12:34:10 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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How many deaths due to Uber drivers? Bet you, its more. And then the rapes and murders...


15 posted on 09/09/2026 12:45:32 PM PDT by packrat35 (“When discourse ends, violence begins.” – Charlie Kirk, and they killed him anyway)
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To: montag813
Btw, there have been 65 deaths attributed to Teslas engaged in self-driving mode. Just saying.

According to the NHTSA Office of Defect Investigations and verified records, exactly two fatalities have been officially determined to have occurred while FSD was engaged.

Independent trackers like Tesla Deaths and Wikipedia's List of Tesla Autopilot Crashes note over 65 total fatalities linked to the broader suite of Autopilot or FSD-branded driver-assistance technologies since 2013.

65 deaths in 13 years? Average 5 per year?

In the US, NHTSA/FARS data show roughly 490,000–495,000 motor vehicle traffic fatalities from 2013 through 2025.

Remember, the standard isn't perfection, the standard is surpassing ever increasingly distracted meatbags that are currently operating vehicles.

Tesla’s more detailed recent reports (rolling 12-month North America data, focused on FSD Supervised) define major collisions roughly as those involving airbag or similar restraint deployment. Approximate figures from 2026 reports include:

FSD (Supervised) engaged: ~5.3–5.7 million miles per major collision (examples: ~5.3 million in one 12-month period with ~830 major collisions over ~4.4 billion miles; later figures around 5.7 million).

Manually driven Teslas with active safety features (standard on post-2014 Teslas: automatic emergency braking, etc.): ~2.1–2.2 million miles per major collision.

Manually driven Teslas without active safety features (mostly pre-2014 vehicles, used by Tesla as a proxy for older average cars): ~0.85–0.97 million miles.

U.S. average (Tesla’s estimate from NHTSA/FHWA data): ~0.66–0.70 million miles.

This implies FSD engaged achieves roughly 2.4–2.7× more miles per major collision than comparable manually driven Teslas with active safety, and about 7–8× the U.S. average in Tesla’s framing.

16 posted on 09/09/2026 12:47:28 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: fruser1

“What does it rely on? Being heavy enough to just push stuff out of the way?”


Seeing and using judgment based upon experience and basic rules. Just like us humans...except it has 360 degree vision, doesn’t get distracted, doesn’t get drunk or high, doesn’t text while driving, etc. It is demonstrably several times safer than human drivers, and is improving literally every single month. It will end up being at least an order of magnitude safer than human drivers before 2030.

Other than that, it sucks.

Perhaps you should be a bit better informed before commenting.


17 posted on 09/09/2026 1:08:04 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: captmar-vell

LOL


18 posted on 09/09/2026 1:11:02 PM PDT by mykroar ("It's Not the Nature of the Evidence; It's the Seriousness of the Charge." - El Rushbo)
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To: SmokingJoe

Never been in or ever will be in any of them.

I drive myself where I need to go.


19 posted on 09/09/2026 1:14:42 PM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: SmokingJoe

well that’s a minor plus


20 posted on 09/09/2026 1:14:44 PM PDT by xp38
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