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To: ek_hornbeck
It's pretty bad when someone manages to make Chris Christie look brilliant by comparison.

I saw them both up close at the Georgia State Convention in 2015. Rubio just gave a stump speech of his biography and was done. We all heard it before. Christie actually tried to tailor his speech for his audience (Georgia isn't New Jersey), and did a very good job of it. He was actually engaging. Cruz had a separate reception in the evening, and though I was a Cruz supporter, was underwhelmed. I wouldn't say he mailed it in, but he was more or less on auto-pilot. Fiorina used a campaign tape. Not a winning move. John Ellis Bush had proxies manning lonely tables. Even in 2015, they looked like a well-funded, losing team. Even though his state was next door. They were the best dressed. No Rand Paul or Scott Walker presence.
41 posted on 07/22/2026 2:30:20 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: Dr. Sivana
I'm not a fan of Chris Christie in terms of policy either (though in a deep blue state like NJ, he's as good as you're going to get), but you're right in that he was a very effective political operator and speaker, and intellectually light years ahead of a scripted empty suit like Rubio. Jeb Bush and Carly Fiorina weren't any better.

What I remember about the 2016 election was being highly skeptical of Trump at first, thinking that he wasn't serious about any of his immigration or trade policies and was just running a vanity campaign, but most of the alternatives were so bad that I said "what the hell" and voted for him. The gamble paid off, at least given the alternatives in the primary and even more so the general election.

48 posted on 07/23/2026 6:53:38 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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