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To: spintreebob
"This line has no credibility as it is the fox in the henhouse, the vote harvesters, and not illegal aliens."

Then why have illegal aliens been arrested for having voted in U.S. elections, if someone else is harvesting their votes?

1 week ago:

Noncitizen Accused of Falsely Claiming U.S. Citizenship Before Casting Federal Ballots

From March:

Illegal immigrants from Africa, India and China are voting in US elections — here’s how they’re doing it

From January:

Aliens Charged with Illegally Voting in a Federal Election and Making False Statements While Applying for U.S. Citizenship

32 posted on 07/20/2026 11:29:50 AM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: mass55th

Facts:
Some Youth age 16-17 are registered to vote when they get a drivers license. Of these youth, some vote in person; for some a vote harvester votes on their behalf; most do not vote.
How many of each? WE DON’T KNOW.

Some immigrant illegals, some non-citizen legals with visa are registered to vote when they get a drives license. Of these non-citizens, some vote in person; for some a vote harvester votes on their behalf; most do not vote. How many of each? WE DON’T KNOW.

My personal experience is now in GA, previously in IL. My personal experience is much more with illegals than it is with legal immigrants and much less with youth than non-citizens.

For many years my 40+ hr job was to knock on doors in heavily immigrant communities. Plus I spent even more hours per week knocking on doors for politics...and for Community Organizations. Later my work was mostly data in large databases.

WE DON’T KNOW is the most important thing I have been trying to communicate in 2026.

In 2020 Soon after I, and the former resident of my house and the former resident of the vacant house next door, received unsolicited mail-in ballots a nice lady knocked on my door and offered to “take care” of the mail in ballots. The mail-in ballots left in the mail boxes disappeared. Was she a vote harvester? WE DON’T KNOW. We can speculate. But we have no proof.

When I was in IL in a former life I proved vote fraud. I proved a vote haverster (aka Political patronage) voted on behalf of the dead. I proved with signed afadavits that people who had moved away and not come back to vote and that a vote harvester voted on their behalf.

I proved with afadavit that a Canadian lady who lived in my precinct had not voted and that a vote harvester had voted on her behalf.

I also proved that husband, daughter voted on behalf of wife, parents which was a different form of vote harvester from the “patronage political worker” form. I proved that the vote of officers of the Libertarian Party had been counted as a vote for the major party.

(I speculate here that the single biggest form of vote fraud in 2020 was Libertarian votes being counted for Harris.)

The fact is WE DON’T KNOW how many. People have been quick to make allegations...and the allegations are probably true. But rarely are people willing to do the tedious door knocking and time consuming discussions with those who might have information. I did those in IL. Not in GA.

On all sides of the debate people do not want to admit: WE DON’T KNOW. We can only speculate, estimate.


34 posted on 07/21/2026 8:37:40 AM PDT by spintreebob
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