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To: captmar-vell
"Long term a good buy and hold."

Agreed. What that company has accomplished in so many areas is just incredible. I honestly believed that spaceflight would always be in the purview of governments and there was no room for a private spaceflight company. And it's not just the short-term play of launching satellites. It's the whole idea of AI data centers in space, reusable heavy-lift rockets, frequent launches and, beyond that, the Kardashev vision (named after Soviet astrophysicist Nikolai Kardashev). That vision centers on using it as a framework for humanity's energy future. Here are his key points:

Solar Energy Dominance

Musk argues that "once you understand the Kardashev Scale, it becomes utterly obvious that essentially all energy generation will be solar." He frequently emphasizes that this framework makes clear why renewable energy, particularly solar, must become humanity's primary energy source. And you cannot build enough solar on earth due to atmospheric losses, cloud losses, nighttime, dirt, etc.

Type II Civilization as a Goal

Musk has expressed a vision of "humanity becoming a Kardashev II-level civilization – one that can harness the Sun's full power." He notes that progressing along the Kardashev Scale would increase energy harnessed on Earth a hundredfold (mostly solar), and then "perhaps a billionfold" at Kardashev II with space-based solar power.

Practical Application

Rather than treating it as abstract theory, Musk has recently proposed through SpaceX the launch of up to one million solar-powered satellites into low-Earth orbit, framing this as a step toward the Kardashev II vision.

His Core Argument

Musk uses the scale to support his position that solar energy isn't just one option among many—it's mathematically inevitable as civilizations advance and need to harness greater quantities of energy.
His interviews on this subject are most fascinating. I spent most of my career in the energy industry and to hear this just blows me away. I was immersed in the day-to-day jobs of building and starting up power plants, working with utilities, and researching advanced power generation technologies. Nobody ever thought at this scale before and I worked with a lot of the biggest thinkers in energy.
24 posted on 06/11/2026 8:47:20 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ( )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

If someone had suggested something like Starlink even in 2010 it would’ve sounded pie-in-the-sky.

Tesla being added down the road is very likely imo.

And Starship just needs its reusability sorted. 200+ tons later on.

I’ll also be very interested if there are any coming moves into quantum.


30 posted on 06/11/2026 9:56:16 AM PDT by captmar-vell
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