Something really radical on campus-West Point(close it down)

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[DIRTYSECRET]

These cadets, the cadets from the Naval, Air Force, and Coast Guard academies, should provide us hope for the future of the United States.

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[DIRTYSECRET]

I say shut em' down. Too expensive. They can get their 4 year engineering degrees at The Citadel, the VMI's and the A&M's. That image of that Ragone fella pulling up his shirt with the 'communism will win' etched on his gut was a real turnoff. Then there's the AF Academy general telling the whites to get out over racist graffiti that a black cadet posted. When democrats are in charge this is what you get. Don't forget the national guardsmen being ordered to march in high heels at a parade. Hegseth is bringing the military back to it's senses but we have to give the left less to play with. Look at what they've done to K-12 schools. They'll do the same again to the academies.

[DIRTYSECRET]

It would be a punch in the gut to the alumni as well as strong military advocates. I can live with it if the other military schools keep us just as strong while the students pay their own tuition.

[Glennb51]

I think the academies offer more than STEM education. The curriculum includes military history, discipline, and espirit de corps, amongst other training not available in a public university.

There will always be idiots. I do not think we should shut down the intituions because of them.

[Rummyfan]

Face it, The Academies aren’t going anywhere. Too much tradition and too strong an alumni base. Besides, how can you argue with Lee and Grant and Eisenhower and Patton and Schwarzkopf and Nimitz and Mitscher and Halsey and on and on? The Academies do what they’re intended to do: produce superior officers and eventually senior military leadership.*

*: not entirely objective here; my son is a 2011 USMA graduate. And it’s about the best thing he ever did.

[Mr. Lucky]

Read the article.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

I say shut em' down.

Full disclosure - I'm an '84 Navy grad.

The Academies maintain a lot of the institutional and cultural tradition for the various branches. There simply isn't the same degree of immersion in American military cultural heritage in programs at civilian schools. The Academies also attract a much higher percentage of high achievers than you'd otherwise get entering the military.

There is a reason that every major military power has equivalent institutions to develop a professional officer Corps. To the extent there were issues with DEI at the Academies during the Biden and Obama Administrations, the military services have to follow the orders of the President and his appointees. Those problems would (and did) exist in the rest of the military, including ROTC programs and places like VMI and the Citadel, even if you got rid of the military academies.

[Night Hides Not]

Congrats to you and your son.

A few weeks ago, I celebrated the 50th anniversary of my graduation from Gonzaga University, and commissioning as a 2nd LT. My ROTC class was small, less than 25. Almost all of us were there all 4 years. Just yesterday, I was on the phone with one of my classmates. Yes, the bonds we developed have been life long.

Despite the times, there were virtually no incidents that I can recall. The worst of it was good natured ribbing. Back then, Gonzaga had only 2000 undergrads, it was a tight-knit community.

We had a good class: a 2-star general, several Colonels, etc. About a third pinned on Ranger tabs, while more than half the class (including me) graduated from Airborne School.

Keep the academies and ROTC. Our country depends on well educated professionals to lead the military now and into the future.

[ansel12]

The days of a military education and engineering degrees has been adapted to females, so now a lot of meaningless, non-military courses are offered to make it easier for the girls.

[DIRTYSECRET]

Very good. I do believe every appointee needs a recommendation from their congressman. It would suggest every congressional district is entitled to one, even the deep blue ones with a far left representative. Since the midwest and the south have a higher military representation I can see an attitude conflict when appointees with their own agenda get rubber stamped through the process and thereby control people they may look down on. It’s vetting and different jurisdictions look at things differently.

*Lee and Grant and Eisenhower and Patton and Schwarzkopf and Nimitz and Mitscher and Halsey and on and on?*
And Westmorland?
Colin Powell was a 90 day wonder and an ‘affirmative action baby’.

**The days of a military education and engineering degrees has been adapted to females, so now a lot of meaningless, non-military courses are offered to make it easier for the girls.**
No way Hegseth gonna put a stop to that $hit.

[Rummyfan]

Congrats to you and your son.

Thank you! He did it not me. Huah!

[DIRTYSECRET]

Speaking of Powell I think he just mighta worked better under Trump than Bush. Loyal soldier in Kuwait when ‘41 got the world consensus against Saddam. Iraq-no proof of WMD and ‘43 was looking for a 911 scapegoat. No proof Iraq involved. Gave money to McCain’ 08 effort and then supported Obama. He didn’t care much for neocons. Felt Trump should resign over Jan. 6.

There you have it. All over the place. Still I think Trump would not have pushed him to the limit with his world view. He was just joined at the hip with the Bushes and when ‘43 ‘broke it’(Iraq) he took it out on McCain.

[PsyCon]

I encourage everyone to Read the article …it does not argue for or support closing the service academies.

[Captain Walker]

I encourage everyone to Read the article

That's just not the way we do things here.

[jagusafr]

Add Norwich to that list. Some of the Army’s best and most patriotic commanders (until they bump into the glass ceiling) have come from that historically black university.

Colonel, USAF JAGC (Ret)

[FlingWingFlyer]

Just read up on Mikie the Migrant Skank Sherrill’s Military history. I wasn’t very impressed. Annapolis should demand she pay for the education she got. Nine years in the Navy and she got out as a Lt. with four kids? She had to have spent many moons on maternity leave and behind a desk instead of working a cyclic and collective.

[DPMD]

I believe those nine years included four at the Naval Academy, during which marriage is forbidden and pregnancy would have gotten her dumped. So, she must have had four babies during the five years of her post grad service. I can’t imagine what her total flight hours must look like, but I’m betting it ain’t much. Ditto her fitness reports. And LT (O-3) in five years is the norm.

[FlingWingFlyer]

She also did one year in Flight School where they made her a helicopter Barbie. In other words, she had the same military career that the woman had that flew the Blackhawk into the American Airlines plane at DC and killed 67 people. She spent her time after flight school as an escort in the White House.

[Dogfaced Soldier]

As a USMA grad, this is my 2¢ worth. In 1964 at the start of Vietnam the Corps of cadets was approximately 2400 in two regiments. The Army end strength was 978,000. The Corps was then expanded to about 4400 cadets in four regiments which is roughly what it is today. The current strength of the Army is 480,000. So approximately twice the number of cadets for an Army that is half the size. I’d say that there is an opportunity to right size it and fill the remaining needs through ROTC and OCS.

[HYPOCRACY]

I’m looking at these responses and it’s blatantly obvious nobody read the very positive article. Or maybe they didn’t understand the author was saying love of country is radical these days and the academies are pumping that kind of radicalism out.

[Vermont Lt]

You missed the oldest of the major mil schools. But thats OK.