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To: SeekAndFind

I have always conceded this point; that the universe and all its wonders could not have just happened by chance - that life could not have somehow evolved from nothing.

However, if we must conclude that ‘science’ knows nothing about how all this came about, I believe we must also conclude that ‘religion’ knows nothing.

The hypothesis that there must be a god who created the universe is every bit as much a guess as the hypothesis that there is not a god.

There are limits to what we can perceive, and vast wonders beyond our perceptions - some folks are OK with that, and some folks are not.

When people are not OK with not knowing, they start making things up.


6 posted on 04/20/2026 3:48:07 AM PDT by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: enumerated

“However, if we must conclude that ‘science’ knows nothing about how all this came about, I believe we must also conclude that ‘religion’ knows nothing.“

Arbitrarily assigning ignorance of one thing to another is an evasive tactic not a rationality. Science’ inability to prove a thing doesn’t in any way affect anything except science’ inability. It is immaterial .The keystone of religion is Faith in what can’t be seen or proven. The Holy Spirit is as real to millions as anything that can be proven. The Word of God as contained in The Holy Bible is testable in its prophecy hundreds of them which were realized but not to a degree that it obviates Faith.


10 posted on 04/20/2026 5:11:08 AM PDT by TalBlack (Their god is government. Prepare for a religious war.https://freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=4322961%2)
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Ok. That’s fair. As a Christian, I have faith about the intelligent designer of the universe. Not personal knowledge. But the amount of wisdom and scientific knowledge that backs it up is very substantial.


16 posted on 04/20/2026 8:56:46 AM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: enumerated
However, if we must conclude that ‘science’ knows nothing about how all this came about, I believe we must also conclude that ‘religion’ knows nothing.

Oh, must we? Hahahahahaha! Fine bit of fallacious tautology there.

18 posted on 04/20/2026 9:20:39 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens. --DJT)
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To: enumerated
However, if we must conclude that ‘science’ knows nothing about how all this came about, I believe we must also conclude that ‘religion’ knows nothing.

I don't think we can say that science knows "nothing", but rather, it doesn't know everything. Likewise, religion can very well know something, but not everything. And that's why the Catholic Church speaks of many mysteries.

If you do believe in a Creator, of any type, the question becomes does that Creator have an interest in communicating with it's creation. If there is no interest, then you could assume that our religion is entirely man-made. If there is a desire to communicate, then religion could have meaning.

Of course, we do not know these answers. But we might believe that if there is a God, who does create life, there would be an interest in how that life turns out. We might also want to consider the possibility that our lives are made up of more than our physical being, and that our spiritual being or soul has a reality. Proof of this is not scientifically proven, but there are enough instances that cannot be explained by other means to entertain the idea that our souls endure beyond our physical life.

As for me, I've lived part of my life without practicing a religion, and I lived part of my live with a religious practice. I prefer the religious life, so those questions have been answered for me.

20 posted on 04/20/2026 9:42:22 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment
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