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The European Union Hates Hungary, Loves Ukraine
American Thinker ^ | 25 Mar, 2026 | J.B. Shurk

Posted on 03/25/2026 11:20:25 AM PDT by MtnClimber

What’s in a name? These days...not much.

The European Union does not include Ukraine; nevertheless and notwithstanding the objections of E.U. members Hungary and Slovakia, the European supra-state insists on paying the salaries of Ukraine’s government bureaucracy while that nation’s martial-law-holdover-president, Volodymyr Zelensky, fights to maintain control over a breakaway region that has rejected Ukrainian rule since the 2014 coup d'état of Ukraine’s then-president, Viktor Yanukovych.

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization does not include Ukraine; nevertheless and notwithstanding the objections of NATO members Hungary and Slovakia, the American-led military alliance insists on sending money and weapons to the Kyiv regime warring with the Russian Federation over territories whose people overwhelmingly identify as Russian. Former Dutch prime minister and current secretary general of NATO, Mark Rutte, has stated on multiple occasions that the military alliance would continue to help defend non-NATO-member Ukraine. According to Ukraine’s newly appointed, thirty-something-year-old defense minister, Mykhailo Fedorov, Ukraine has over two million draft dodgers and a quarter of a million active-duty troops who have gone AWOL. So NATO is protecting a non-NATO country whose men refuse to fight. NATO is assisting a Kyiv dictatorship that depends almost entirely upon conscription (including the violent “busification” of “recruits” after draft officers break into vehicles and homes with drawn weapons).

While the E.U. and NATO fight Russian authoritarianism by protecting Ukrainian authoritarianism, both institutions have remained relatively quiet as member states sustain actual attacks. Seven months after Russia moved to annex the Russophone regions of Ukraine, the Nord Stream pipelines transporting natural gas from Russia to Germany were sabotaged and made inoperable. German, Dutch, and French energy companies own interests in the pipelines. Subsequent German investigations have identified a dozen Ukrainian suspects, including members of a Kyiv diving school where military personnel train.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: europe; eurotrash; hungary; leftism; ukraine

1 posted on 03/25/2026 11:20:25 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

Did the Biden administration provide assistance in destroying the Nord Stream pipeline?


2 posted on 03/25/2026 11:20:41 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Western Europe, being muslim now, loves Turkey, too. Countries that don’t submit to islam like Hungary are bad.


3 posted on 03/25/2026 11:28:18 AM PDT by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: MtnClimber

60% of the people of Donbas identify as Ukrainian, only 40% as Russian. In Kherson and Zaporizhzhia 80% and 70% of the population identifies as Ukrainian. The author is just repeating Russian propaganda.


4 posted on 03/25/2026 11:28:41 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: MtnClimber

Didn’t Hungary voluntarily join the EU, and difn’t their leader say they would never leave the EU and they loved it?


5 posted on 03/25/2026 11:52:27 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: MtnClimber
PM Orbán: Hungary wants to reform the EU but will never leave it


Orban is a total EU lapdog.

6 posted on 03/25/2026 11:53:46 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Sirius Lee

Just Western Europe? Putin is replacing his population with Muslims.


7 posted on 03/25/2026 11:54:27 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Petrosius

Wait, so there are Freepers who want the Spanish-speaking majority areas of the U.S. to become part of Mexico?


8 posted on 03/25/2026 11:55:46 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Sirius Lee

“””””Western Europe, being muslim now”””””

Isn’t Russia the most Muslim at about 15% as they and their allies of North Korea and the Muslim Republic of Chechnya try to conquer a nation with only 1% Muslims?


9 posted on 03/25/2026 12:19:27 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12
Isn’t Russia the most Muslim at about 15%

Yeah, so what? Anybody who lets them in deserves what they get. Hungary is the only good Euro country now. Or at least for now.

10 posted on 03/25/2026 12:31:13 PM PDT by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: Sirius Lee

It seems relevant since they alongside Muslim troops and having introduced the North Korean Army into the war are currently invading another European country with close to zero Muslims, to conquer them, and the bloodiest European war since WWII is being fought to fight off their invasion.


11 posted on 03/25/2026 12:40:56 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Don’t care what they do to themselves. Just leave Hungary alone.


12 posted on 03/25/2026 1:36:48 PM PDT by Sirius Lee ("Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: MtnClimber
Hungary has had a tough haul, historically speaking.

Following the First World War, Hungary underwent a period of profound political upheaval, beginning with the Aster Revolution in 1918, which brought the social-democratic Mihály Károlyi to power as prime minister. The Hungarian Royal Honvéd army still had more than 1,400,000 soldiers when Károlyi was installed. Károlyi yielded to U.S. President Woodrow Wilson's demand for pacifism by ordering the disarmament of the Hungarian army. Disarmament meant that Hungary was to remain without a national defence at a time of particular vulnerability. During the rule of Károlyi's pacifist cabinet, Hungary lost control over approximately 75% of its pre-war territories (325,411 square kilometres (125,642 sq mi) without a fight and was subject to foreign occupation. The Little Entente, sensing an opportunity, invaded the country from three sides—Romania invaded Transylvania, Czechoslovakia annexed Upper Hungary (today's Slovakia), and a joint Serb-French coalition annexed Vojvodina and other southern regions. In March 1919, communists led by Béla Kun ousted the Károlyi government and proclaimed the Hungarian Soviet Republic (Tanácsköztársaság), followed by a thorough Red Terror campaign. Despite some successes on the Czechoslovak front, Kun's forces were ultimately unable to resist the Romanian invasion; by August 1919, Romanian troops occupied Budapest and ousted Kun.

On 4 June 1920, the Treaty of Trianon established new borders for Hungary. The country lost 71% of its territory and 66% of its pre-war population, as well as many sources of raw materials and its sole port at Fiume. An estimated 3.3 million ethnic Hungarians were living in the ceded territories, mostly in what is now Romania, Slovakia and Serbia, although modern sources for this figure range from 2 million to 5 million. Though the revision of the treaty quickly rose to the top of the national political agenda, the Horthy government was not willing to resort to military intervention to do so.

13 posted on 03/25/2026 2:49:48 PM PDT by yelostar
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To: MtnClimber
Orban has legitimate grievances with the EU for the underhanded way they helped the opposition win power and remove him and Fidesz from power many years ago. Similar if more extensive shenanigans than the EU used to help elevate Tusk in the last Polish election.

Like Putin, he started his political life as a "liberal" reformer, but like Putin has turned into a corrupt autocrat who also happens to be on Putin's payroll. That's why the oil through Ukraine is such a big deal: Hungary could get oil from a Croatian pipeline but it won't be the Russian oil from which he (and Fico) are getting kickbacks.

There are lots of other European politicians on Putin's payroll as well, especially Germany's SPD, so this is hardly surprising.

14 posted on 03/25/2026 2:54:28 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: MtnClimber

Orban the Prime Minister of Hungary supports Russia. The Foreign Minister of Hungary has been a spy for Putin in the EU meetings. The EU and NATO both know that if Russia takes over Ukraine that Russia Weill attack them next. And the writer does not want the EU and NATO to help Ukraine to defeat Putin?

Zelensky was elected in 2019 and had nothing to do with ousting the Putin puppet in Ukraine. How say y’all? You want Russia to take over Europe??


15 posted on 03/25/2026 3:13:14 PM PDT by POGO163
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To: MtnClimber

Hungary is out of step with the EU elites in many ways; rather than submitting to Muslim replacement it and a few other central European states have tried to defend their people and culture, with the predictable character assassination/propaganda efforts and smears of them as “racist” for not submitting to a slow motion genocide.


16 posted on 03/25/2026 4:42:39 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: MtnClimber

Hungary and Slovakia may be the only decent countries in EU.
both lived under moslem terrorist rule during ottoman empire.
jihadist Turkey should not be allowed in NATO.Us taxpayers better off if Trump withdrew


17 posted on 03/27/2026 7:59:57 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: pierrem15; BeauBo; dennisw; MalPearce

Russia has further complicate the issue of the oil pipeline to Hungary that passes through Ukraine, by accidentally(?) bombing the pipeline while bombing Ukraine. I wonder if Orban has also fallen under the influence of Russian geopolitical philosopher Alexandr Dugin, who has so influenced Putin he is now known as “Putin’s Brain.” A few months ago Dugin was saying that the Russian war needed to continue 10 or 15 year and Russians should be happy to sacrifice their lives for Russia as they would immediately go to Heaven. Now Putin, as reported by a Russian milblogger, held a closed door meeting with Russian businessmen, to inform them the war could need to continue to victory for 10 or 15 years, and contributions would be asked of them to help the war continue.

the milblogger made other inquiries saying, “We spoke with several participants at the meeting. All of them were disheartened by the forecast of a 10- to 15-year war. And they hope that won’t happen. Overall, the business leaders admit that they didn’t want to argue with Putin or contradict him. But the prospect of the war lasting that long frightens many of them. We reported this to a source in the Kremlin. He said that ‘business simply hasn’t gotten used to the idea yet that a new era has finally dawned in Russia—a difficult but heroic one.’” From:

https://t.me/kremlin_secrets/6954

Obviously, the Kremlin crowd has already swallowed the Dugin Cool-ade.


18 posted on 03/27/2026 11:20:04 PM PDT by gleeaikin (Question Authority: report facts, and post their links in your message)
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To: EnderWiggin1970; pierrem15; blitz128

The USSR created the Muslim mix partly by capturing Muslim border areas, transporting a lot of their population to Siberia, and then moving ethnic Russians into the new territory/former country. This also happened in the Baltic areas. My maternal grandparents came from East Prussia which is currently Lithuania or Kalliningrad Oblast. In fact I was told we had an ancestor who was mayor of Konigsburg. I think they all escaped west to Germany during WW2. I was told scary stories, when I was a child, of our relatives crossing the frozen Baltic Sea with a horse drawn sled in mid winter. Late I learned many others were drowned that way when the ice broke. When I became an adult I was told how two of my grandmother’s sisters, maiden ladies retired in Berlin, committed suicide in 1945 when the Russians invaded Berlin. One was a dentist the other a gynecologist. She must have known just how badly the Russians were treating German women, even raping and beating German nuns. From everything I have read about Russian behavior to civilians in Ukraine, they have not changed one damn bit.


19 posted on 03/27/2026 11:57:59 PM PDT by gleeaikin (Question Authority: report facts, and post their links in your message)
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To: MtnClimber

American Thinker needs to get out more.

The EU doesn’t hate Hungary; it hates Orbán - whose mask has slipped so hard that he couldn’t be more obvious as a Kremlin stooge these days if he turned up on stage waving a Z flag.

And his own supporters are coming round to that view.

To be fair there’s still a lot to like about Orbán from a national identity and Christian heritage perspective, his anti-immigration stance, and his intent to block Muslim asylum seekers. But that has to be balanced by other factors.

Hungary was hit hard - with the EU’s worst inflationary surge - following Russia’s February 2022 invasion of Ukraine. Food prices soared to ​EU average levels, but wages are third-lowest in the bloc. But instead of recognising that this was entirely the fault of Putin’s invasion (because at that time the fuel was still flowing), Orban’s solution was, in effect, Ukraine needs to just surrender to Putin and take the hit.

By Summer 2022, he knew - as did all the rest of of eastern Europe, courtesy of direct messages from Moscow - that this outcome would condemn Ukraine to GENERATIONS of collective punishment. Moscow said on multiple occasions, early in the SMO, that if Ukraine were successfully occupied by Russia (even if it surrendered without a fight!), Moscow would then start giving up to 15 million Ukrainians a hard choice between forced re-education, labor camps, forced relocation, imprisonment, torture, or execution.

We had that in the 1940s in Europe. Every country east of Germany - Hungary included - knows what that means. As does Israel. For Orban to say, in effect, “We know that’s what Russia will do, and it is totally fine by me”, doesn’t just outrage most of his neighbors, it outrages half of his own people. The only reason the other half are still tolerating his blatantly pro-Russia, anti-Ukraine stance is, his other conservative credentials USED TO balance it out.

But that’s generating a diminishing return. While Poland and other ex Warsaw Pact countries have raced ahead on development, Orban’s blown exhorbitant amounts of money on self-aggrandisement, while shilling for Russia. He takes European money but never wants to cooperate with Europe. Ditto with NATO, where all he ever does is cause obstructions.

Peter Magyar was, for years, an Orbán ally. He was inspired by Orbán. He’s a Christian conservative. But he is now running against Orbán because Orbán’s direction of travel looks far too much like Lukashenko’s.

This week, Orbán was resoundingly booed at a rally because of his obvious monomaniacal obsession with appeasing Russia - and even his past supporters are getting sick of hearing it. They’re waking up to the fact that he is INCAPABLE of talking about anything else. For Orbán, literally the only thing he can talk about boils down to Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine.

The only thing Orbán wants to do is curry ever more favor with Moscow (and take a big cut for himself), sending more and more Hungarian money to Moscow in return for a cheap fuel supply that Russia can (and has before) turn off any time it wants to blackmail Budapest. At the same time, Orbán wants to keep being a toxic partner in EU and NATO, and throw his neighbors under a bus.

The EU probably doesn’t need to get involved in kicking Orbán out. If he has another rally like yesterday, Orbán will be lucky if it doesn’t go as well for him as Ceaucescu’s last public rally - where he suddenly found that rather than the crowd of patriots wanting him to continue in power, they’d be happier seeing him swinging from a lamp post.

https://tvpworld.com/92334138/orbn-accuses-booing-protesters-of-pushing-ukraines-cart-at-gyr-rally


20 posted on 03/28/2026 5:00:44 AM PDT by MalPearce ("You see, but you do not observe" - Holmes to Watson, A Scandal in Bohemia)
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