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What If Iranians Don’t Want to Be ‘Free’?
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Posted on 03/17/2026 8:16:52 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET

If you’ve never experienced liberty before, you don’t know what it is. It’s not the natural state of humanity. Most of human history is riddled with oppression. A fish doesn’t know it’s wet.

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To: odawg
Fallen angels ARE demons!

They revolted and fell with lucifer!

41 posted on 03/17/2026 8:47:26 AM PDT by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: odawg
Agreed....

When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God. But the LORD's portion is his people, Jacob his allotted heritage. (Deut. 32:8–9 ESV)

42 posted on 03/17/2026 8:48:17 AM PDT by OwenKellogg (...if my people, who are called by my name...)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

We have a program to blow problematic people to pieces which is working quite nicely.

May six feet of dirt be upon them.


43 posted on 03/17/2026 8:50:14 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Freedom of Choice, is what you’ve got
Freedom from Choice, is what you want

-DEVO


44 posted on 03/17/2026 8:50:54 AM PDT by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Prior to 1979 they did have liberty/freedom.


45 posted on 03/17/2026 8:53:11 AM PDT by oil_dude
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To: DIRTYSECRET

nation building in the middle east is a poor ROI


46 posted on 03/17/2026 8:53:17 AM PDT by BigFreakinToad (Ice, Ice Baby)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Rich people tend to have the financial blessings that come from patience.

Ask a Berkshire Hathaway shareholder.


47 posted on 03/17/2026 8:53:33 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Who Cares if they do not want to be free!

Our goal should be to force them (their leadership) into behaving themselves on the world stage.

Kick the snot out of them and tell them we will be back to do it again if they do not straighten up. As many times as it takes.


48 posted on 03/17/2026 8:54:11 AM PDT by 728b (Never cry over something that can not cry over you.)
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To: Brian Griffin

I’d leave it to the Mossad to find their nuke scientists and deal with them accordingly. Looks like there are plenty of takers for the information bounty hunters.


49 posted on 03/17/2026 8:55:07 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (Curt)
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To: marstegreg
Yet, in the 1950s and 60s, even Afghanistan was a relatively benign place. In Kabul, women could go about uncovered and attend school, even college, and Westerners were respected and protected against harm. In Kabul, the children of Westerners could wander freely without risk. I know a lawyer who grew up there as the son of Christian missionaries and loved the place.

What changed? The Iranian revolution installed a radical Islamist regime that influenced the entire Muslim world. An existential clash of civilizations was declared, with consequences that are still being felt. And, you are correct of course that Iran was rapidly developing into a prosperous, modern nation before Khomeini.

50 posted on 03/17/2026 8:56:48 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Uncle Miltie

same for palestinians.


51 posted on 03/17/2026 8:59:10 AM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US;-))
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To: DIRTYSECRET
What If Iranians Don’t Want to Be ‘Free’?

I couldn't care less what Iranians want. Or Papuans. Or Mongolians.

Not my circus. Not my monkeys. I thought Iraq settled that once and for all. Apparently not.

52 posted on 03/17/2026 9:02:07 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et des phrases)
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To: spetznaz

“With the midterms close, it might be best to declare victory and disengage.”

The Do-Nothings are sure to be toast in November.

There’s only one path to make the next Congress red, fighting for income tax and property tax caps for the middle class in the federal Constitution.


53 posted on 03/17/2026 9:05:37 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I don’t know the percentage of Iranians for and against Muslim totalitarianism.

“The skeptics are suggesting this will be a never ender.”

The conflict between Islam and everyone else has been going on for more than a thousand years. Islamism was largely crushed before Jimmy Carter helped to rekindle the flame. Islamism must be crushed again.

Islam should be reformed to assure freedom of conscience. People should be allowed to choose their faith. Islam should be reformed to give women basic rights to include safety from honor killing. Start with the western nations. Pressure Muslim nations.

It’s been said that Islam reformed is Islam destroyed. Let’s put that to the test.


54 posted on 03/17/2026 9:07:39 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Infidels of the world unite against the evil that is Islam.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Then let them choose their own dictator, king, potentate, etc. and be done with it.


55 posted on 03/17/2026 9:10:08 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Finish the damned WALL! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH! )
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To: PTBAA

There isn’t a person alive anywhere that likes to be told what to do.

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I respectfully disagree with that idea.


56 posted on 03/17/2026 9:11:48 AM PDT by sonova (No money? You're free to go.)
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To: spetznaz

The regular Army is not as radicalized as the IRGC. The Basij and IRGC are being targeted, and weakened. It would be a win if we could get an Egypt liek outcome with an el-Sisi type from the Army taking over and run the country.


57 posted on 03/17/2026 9:13:38 AM PDT by Wayne07
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Free is not an absolute term. We are never free. We are beings confined to the natural world. We need to eat and sleep and breath every day. And so we endeavor to do those things. Giving up our time or trading our possessions or freedoms to get those things is commonplace. Then there are other people. We ban together for safety and to create situations where food and shelter and clothing is more readily available. And then our families have to deal with might makes right. So we must deal with the governments that are strong. Because those governments will win a fight. And we don’t have a choice if one strong government is in place. Its might makes right that is the law of the land. Not freedom. Freedom is not a thing in the animal kingdom. Its hierarchy of needs. The strongest among us are still subject to those two laws.

People born into slavery become very adept at being a slave. They work the system. People in jail soon learn how to work that system. People in harsh dictatorships learn that system. They do not learn Freedom. They do not learn campaigning and free speech and agree to disagree. Those are advanced topics. And take generations to be adapted.


58 posted on 03/17/2026 9:14:45 AM PDT by poinq
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To: DIRTYSECRET

New York City-ers didn’t want to be free, and they deserve it.


59 posted on 03/17/2026 9:15:25 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Tell the ‘they don’t want to be free’ to the tens of thousands of people in Iran who have died seeking freedom. What a bunch of ignorant nonsenst.


60 posted on 03/17/2026 9:17:26 AM PDT by Mimi.M
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