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But as the government evolved into the same thing the original 13 colonies fled, it became a mistake.

Really? What had the government done to them that made them want to leave. How had the Federal government of 1861 become like the British government of 1775?

In 1861 we departed from being a coalition of the willing to become a coalition of the compelled. That's not what the founders created.

So you think the Framers thought the Constitution was just a suggestion? What was theSouth being compelled to do?

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What had the government done to them that made them want to leave.

Is it up to the 13 colonies to decide or not?

Clearly the Canadians and the Brits did not agree with their view that King George III had become oppressive. The 13 slave states chose to leave, and their reasons for doing so only needed to satisfy themselves, not the Canadians or Brits.

So you think the Framers thought the Constitution was just a suggestion?

It required a vote didn't it?

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Really? What had the government done to them that made them want to leave. How had the Federal government of 1861 become like the British government of 1775?

See Rhett's address I included portions of above. He goes into it in detail.

So you think the Framers thought the Constitution was just a suggestion?

Not at all. The Framers and more importantly the states which ratified the Constitution thought it was voluntary for each state and was based on consent.

What was the South being compelled to do?

Remain in a now centralized union which had become economically exploitative and abusive toward them without their consent.