[DiogenesLamp]

One problem with with quoting what some Framers discussed is that the people never ratified Framer discussions.

When it comes to the 14th amendment, the people never ratified it at all. Washington DC instructed puppet governments to "ratify" it against the will of the people, so the thing is illegitimate from the git go.

[woodpusher]

When it comes to the 14th amendment, the people never ratified it at all. Washington DC instructed puppet governments to "ratify" it against the will of the people, so the thing is illegitimate from the git go.

So 14A is not an amendment by decree of DiogenesLamp. Take that argument to court.