Posted on 12/14/2025 7:53:55 PM PST by conservative98
Rob Reiner and his wife, Michele Singer Reiner, were killed by their son, Nick, who is currently missing, multiple sources confirm to PEOPLE.
(Excerpt) Read more at people.com ...
Prayers lifting.
Some federally-illegal drugs are legal in some states. These states appear to have legitimate businesses making or selling these things going out of business, because “illegal” is always cheaper. So, strangely, the war on drugs continues to still round up the same illegal players who now operate more in the open because it's okay to have those drugs and police or feds don't know if a person smoking or shooting up has a legal version. They can't arrest the druggie, because it's fully legal to be doing that drug (the one that seems to incapacitate this person). If they have other drugs in them, the authorities don't know and can't act to find out.
I applaud your desire to remove all health insurance and Medicaid and Medicare from helping these people. I agree and have posted this for well over a decade in my profile page, here. However, changing that has to occur before unleashing greater drug-using hordes on the populace. I don't see you fighting that fight, to date.
What is wrong with fully legalizing a plethora of date-rape drugs? If we are being consistent, we should insure cheap legal access to these. Alcohol is the main one used today, but we have even better ones like GHB, Rohypnol, and ketamine. We already have laws on the books to stop their use, and they don't seem to have blunted their use, so we should just legalize those, too. Why fight a losing battle? Sexual drive has kept the human race alive for all of its time.
This seems to be the primary argument in favor of legalization of drugs, or at least the non-criminalization.
It's a tough question, because, as we see with alcohol many people are able to use it without adverse consequences, finding it relaxing and enjoyable. Yet, to others, alcohol is a poison the destroys lives.
The problem is that separating those who can use with little adverse consequences from the addicts is an extremely tricky business. By the time addiction is revealed, it's often too late to reverse the damage done.
democrats on Fox are trying to compare him to Trump and Charlie Kirk.
“Don’t you d-dare gloat!”
There is no comparison. Good riddance to Meathead, who didn’t have to act.
He was vile.
Date rape drugs should be illegal. I do not buy the argument that the purchase of these criminal instruments are driven by addiction, that is, sexual addiction. I believe those who exploit these drugs against innocent females are sexual opportunists but not true sexual addicts, at least in the overwhelming majority of cases.
The cost of health insurance to treat victims of cancer acquired through smoking has been cited in the past to justify attempts to prohibit smoking. The same arguments might be advanced to justify the war on drugs. It is undeniably politically difficult to deny treatment at public expense to destitute drug addicts but reasonable regulations can mitigate the cost. For example, tying drug rehabilitation to criminal sentencing with rigorous enforcement in the event of relapse, can prove effective.
Sadly, true. And one might say that the likelihood of adverse consequences is far higher because drugs are simply more potent than alcohol so it is necessary to prohibit these drugs. One might add, the process of rehabilitation for drug addicts is more difficult and less likely of long-term success than the rehabilitation process for alcohol.
Yet, despite this sad reality, the evidence of prohibition led us to the 21st amendment.
90% of date rapes are done today with alcohol. The other three I mention are currently only 10% of such rapes. Why quibble over 10% when making the drugs legal allows other uses for them? Let the illegal versions flourish, too.
Of course, illegal drug sales means no income tax or sales or use tax is collected, which should be legal exceptions to help assure we stop fighting against illegal drug use.
What proves effective is the death of the perps. Also, torture penalties can instill a fear in some and literally stop them from using hands or arms or arms to help do anything. The most humane is to get them to therapy, but then that often never helps, as this thread speaks to.
Yes eventually it becomes all consuming with an addicted child (who is a grown man)
I’v gone through 3 of my kids addiction. Two have recovered and gotten out of that. Once was still a minor, she is now 37 happily married with two kids, the other is just getting clean now for 1 year, has a business and is providing for his two kids.
The 3rd one is on the streets now in Portland. He has been subjected to Antifa and Communism. He is also Gay and loves Trans. His political stance is that he wants revolution. He actively hates his partents (me/wife) stole from us, lied to us goes online to tell lies about us and is trying to break up our 42 year marriage. So yes there is a point where parent do let go... I’ll put it that way, He is a grown man and makes his own decisions and there is not much a parent can do at that point.
But, of course, it's does not prove effective. It has not proved effective for generations. Nor does killing consumers of drugs prove effective, fentanyl is killing some unknown number of Americans, approaching 100,000 people a year, without evidence that it "proves effective."
Alcohol related crimes since prohibition have been largely handled by publishing the associated crime rather than the consumption. In other words, drunk driving is the offense not the consumption of alcohol. One might argue an exception of public intoxication for consumption of alcohol from open containers but, still, the crime is largely the associated behavior rather than the consumption itself.
So concerning date rapes associated with the consumption of alcohol, either by the man or the woman, it is the rape that is properly punished, rather than alcohol consumption. However, if alcohol were physically forced down a woman's throat who was then raped, that might be considered an aggravated act or a crime in itself. Thus, the distinction for date rape drugs should not be dismissed by the way we treat drug-related rapes.
I would think that some sales tax could be collected and still market drugs under the cartel price points but governments are greedy and will no doubt cross the line, vitiating the effect.
Trump’s doing the right thing taking on cartels and dope monsters. We all fight evil in our own way.
Perhaps you and I differ over how crime statistics are compiled.
Once someone dies, they NEVER commit a crime again. That is a resounding success. You and I have not been talking to “prevention.” We hope prevention could help, but you fully admit it can't, as do I. We are talking to the failed “War on Drugs” and freely letting the use of drugs bloom or contract on its own and to what then happens.
If we are to talk to “success” on prevention, the we do have to include interdiction of illegal drugs as part of that, necessarily so. I sure haven't heard you speak to the need for massive amounts of therapy for current users—your concern is that anything spent on those that choose to use is wasted, from what I've gathered. Of course, incidental help and encouragement/discouragement from friends and family are free and potentially helpful and that would continue, regardless.
As for date rapes and those drugs, well those raped men and women will not be too likely to know what happened. That is just something that will have to happen.
I would think that some sales tax could be collected and still market drugs under the cartel price points but governments are greedy and will no doubt cross the line, vitiating the effect.
If we stop the War on Drugs, we don't want to fight illegal drug sales for even taxes. If we fight it, we are again having a War on Drugs. We are either for the drugs or are against them. Fighting cartels because of a lack of sales tax collection is just another domestic and international fight we don't want to fight.
In light of all of this, do you believe we should have a functioning border, as that prevents drugs from entry, just driving up the price. The more porous the border, the better the flow of all drugs.
Your comment was not to me.
However, the reduction of supply, and the adjoining price increase, are axiomatic.
If you were in the drug transport business, the price of reliable employees just went up 500%.
Isn’t it nice to see someone actually doing something beneficial for once??? Most politicians know how to do just one thing: talk. Trump talks, but he also walks.
Go DJT!
From the interwebs...
“a very recent article that said Rob Reiner and his son Nick had a loud argument — unspecified what the argument was about — at Conan O’Brien’s Christmas Party on Saturday night and Rob and Michele ended up leaving early because of it. It also stated no one is sure at the present time if Nick left at the same time they did. At some point, however, Nick came home and slit their throats.”
Nick was on prescribed Psychiatric drugs.
I’m with Trump, Reiner was bad for our country.
Yes, and good for President Trump for drawing the line...
Eyewitnesses who saw Nick check in say he seemed “tweaked out”, but there were no visible signs he had been in a violent confrontation — we’re told definitely no blood stains or cuts on his body.
The reservation was made for just a day, but Nick never formally checked out.
When the staff came into his room later Sunday morning, they found the shower “full of blood” and blood on the bed.
https://www.tmz.com/2025/12/15/nick-reiner-blood-filled-hotel-room-after-murders/
A lot less alcohol related crime during prohibition actually. O would have minded living during prohibition.
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