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To: FamiliarFace

Julian Saying got robbed.


8 posted on 12/13/2025 5:34:22 PM PST by Kleon
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To: Kleon

I’m a Buckeye fan, and I totally disagree with that. Sayin is very young. A redshirt freshman. Mendoza is a redshirt junior.

It is my opinion that Mendoza deserved the award THIS year. He has been the most valuable player to his team, above all other valuable players.

I congratulate him on his amazing season.

Sayin has some time under his belt. I wish him the best!


13 posted on 12/13/2025 5:42:13 PM PST by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Kleon

How so? OSU lost to IU, the Hoosiers finished the season undefeated, that’s not the way it works. They might again too...


21 posted on 12/13/2025 6:02:13 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Kleon

There is more than one pretty good football player ... so picking a Heisman winner, in the end, is basically arbitrary.

But in the end, the intangibles do come into play. IU was, until halfway through this season, the losingest program in the history of major college football. IU has never had a Heisman winner. (I think Ohio State has a few on the mantelpiece.) In the last two years IU has been the biggest Cinderella story in a loooong time, maybe ever. That alone should be a tiebreaker.

And Mendoza was magic when it counted. How do you resolve a coin flip call? Magic moments. I won’t say that the last minute drive to beat Penn State after Penn State got an interception in scoring position and took a late lead — second and long (after a first down sack) at the IU 17, less than a minute to play and no timeouts, Penn State teeing off on every down (because they all had to be pass plays), great pressure on Mendoza on every throw, defensive backs draped over every receiver — was the one of the greatest last minute drives in CFB history. There have been a lot of games played so I won’t say THE greatest. But there has never been a better one: no trick plays, no finding a seam and someone taking off for a miracle 80 yard gain, just clinical with perfect throws and highlight reel catches on several of them. And the TD was one of the greatest catches in the history of great catches.

If you haven’t seen the final drive, go to YouTube and watch it. That was the single greatest clutch performance by any quarterback this year. It won Mendoza the Heisman. Julian Sayin had a pretty nice year, but Ohio State was cruising all year after a close opener with Texas, until Indiana upset them in the head to head. And in the head to head, Mendoza delivered in the clutch. Sayin didn’t.

This was the right choice. And it should have been an easy choice for most voters.


25 posted on 12/13/2025 7:02:58 PM PST by sphinx
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To: Kleon

LOL
His knee was down, he lost the game and he lost the Heisman . Only a brown useless nut would be mad.


28 posted on 12/13/2025 7:12:43 PM PST by sausageseller (If you want to cut your own throat, don't come to me for a bandage. M, Thatcher)
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To: Kleon
You were saying that Sayin got robbed? Here are the highlights. For THE Drive, pick it up at 13:08.

THE Drive

Yeah, Sayin had a great year. But nothing like this. Just sayin.'

31 posted on 12/13/2025 7:19:51 PM PST by sphinx
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To: Kleon

I lied earlier. There was 1:30 to play, but still no timeouts. And it was second and 17, with 83 years to go to pull out the game.


32 posted on 12/13/2025 7:24:39 PM PST by sphinx
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