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Kids Rarely Read Whole Books Anymore. Even in English Class.
NYT ^ | 12/12/25 | Dana Goldstein

Posted on 12/12/2025 3:13:21 PM PST by Borges

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To: Borges

I’m the Luddite opposite of today’s people.

Thrilled to get my first library card as a child in the mid 1950s and to get special permission to get adult books with it. Used it for the three volume complete history of the FDR era by Arthur Schlesinger, Jr. And then science fiction. And those Landmark series books (Constitution, founding fathers, history of American wars).


41 posted on 12/12/2025 5:06:49 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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To: odawg

It’s all part of the plan to turn America communist.


42 posted on 12/12/2025 5:07:49 PM PST by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: Allegra

THAT book Silas mariner almost made me give up reading. Thankfully I had better reading material at our local city Library (Carlsbad NM) in 1960 to keep me going. Today I still will NOT read any English novels from that time.


43 posted on 12/12/2025 5:08:09 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (REOPEN THE MENTAL HOSPITALS CLOSED IN THE 1970s!)
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To: freepertoo

We all should.


44 posted on 12/12/2025 5:10:33 PM PST by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: GingisK

Tess is so great. What was your issue with it? TSL takes some getting used to but it’s still really good.


45 posted on 12/12/2025 5:12:04 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

I was never a reader. I hated all the books we were assigned to read in school just out of spite. We were told WHAT to think about a book rather than what WE as students thought. They were all boring.


46 posted on 12/12/2025 5:15:10 PM PST by Organic Panic ('Was I molested. I think so' - Ashley Biden in response to her father joining her in the shower)
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To: alternatives?

You can speed up audio books!


47 posted on 12/12/2025 5:15:43 PM PST by Borges
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I remember I was in 3rd grade when I read The Hobbit the first time, then The Lord of the Rings trilogy. (can’t even count how times I have read those).


48 posted on 12/12/2025 5:16:24 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: Borges

Yeah, sad, my problem is I try to read so many books at the same time.


49 posted on 12/12/2025 5:17:34 PM PST by kawhill (And the sea will bring each man new hope as sleep brings dreams of home. C.C.)
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To: DouglasKC
It seems like every hero in those books can meet a beautiful women no matter where they are. On a high mountain top? Beautiful woman. In Siberia? Beautiful woman. Middle of a desert? Beautiful woman.

Ain't it the truth. Or maybe they all just looked good to a guy who'd been stuck on a cattle drive or a long ocean voyage for months with no women. After reading a few of the L'Amour books, I noticed his main characters had a penchant for slightly freckled girls with auburn hair.

50 posted on 12/12/2025 5:24:47 PM PST by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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To: GingisK

“Books like “The Scarlet Letter” and “Tess of the d’Urbervilles” made sure of that!”

Or anything by Franz Kafka.


51 posted on 12/12/2025 5:33:27 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: fidelis
Or maybe they all just looked good to a guy who'd been stuck on a cattle drive or a long ocean voyage for months with no women. After reading a few of the L'Amour books, I noticed his main characters had a penchant for slightly freckled girls with auburn hair.

Yeah, and they were always like "I never could talk to a woman but my brother could gab them up. No women would look at me. I was too tall and my shoulders too wide."

52 posted on 12/12/2025 5:42:55 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Borges
I don't fault younger people for not reading books because most "writers" and "editors" create such a substandard product.

Even the classics need to be reworked and rewritten before being worthwhile.

The industry is filled with editors who can't write and freelance authors who can't write either. The publishers just "move product".

Writers in the past studied great writing in multiple languages, including Greek and Latin.

53 posted on 12/12/2025 5:44:35 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: Labyrinthos

My experience is that teenagers are fascinated by Kafka.


54 posted on 12/12/2025 5:54:42 PM PST by Borges
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To: T.B. Yoits

What do you mean they need to be rewritten?


55 posted on 12/12/2025 5:55:06 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

Last year I read over 80 books. I have not read near that this year. Too much home stuff going on.


56 posted on 12/12/2025 5:59:56 PM PST by madison10 ("...the dark places of the earth are full of the haunts of cruelty." Psalm 74:20b [NKJV])
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To: Rio
CliffsNotes saved me from a lot of reading back then.

Classics Illustrated was a go-to for me in my younger days. lol

I tested at 12th grade reading level when I was in 6th grade. Outside of class, I only read sports themed books until my junior year in HS when I read The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings.

During my 4 years in Germany, I basically went without TV. What spare time I had was spent reading such novels as The Kent Family Chronicles, Texas (by Michener), and Once an Eagle by Anton Myrer. Frederick Forsyth was a favorite, too.

57 posted on 12/12/2025 6:03:55 PM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It! I’m )
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To: Borges

Had an English Literature class in HS 1974. Consistent with reading books in class and writing a summary of the contents/themes. Loved it.


58 posted on 12/12/2025 6:14:15 PM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny)
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To: Borges
What do you mean they need to be rewritten?

Rewrite them for active voice instead of passive. Get to the point for each chapter. Remove the fluff. Get rid of irrelevant characters. Trim down any elaboration of MacGuffin plot devices.

MacGuffin (from Wikipedia): A MacGuffin is a term, popularized by film director Alfred Hitchcock, referring to a plot device wherein a character pursues an object, though the object's actual nature is not important to the story. Another object would work just as well if the characters treated it with the same importance. Regarding the MacGuffin, Alfred Hitchcock stated, "In crook stories it is almost always the necklace and in spy stories it is almost always the papers."

59 posted on 12/12/2025 6:25:14 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: T.B. Yoits

A literary work is Art not a string of sausage you can rearrange. It’s about more than story - it’s style, tone, language etc.


60 posted on 12/12/2025 6:30:42 PM PST by Borges
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