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To: SmokingJoe
Seems way premature to me. I'm appalled at all the mistakes Grok gives me in answers. I use it a lot for nutrition, diet, exercise, sleep, weight loss and other health items. Last night I asked Grok:
"With all this fantastic work and the super colossal data center getting built, why are Grok's analyses for me constantly riddled with basic errors? I'm shocked and appalled at the huge number of errors iI found. It destroys confidence."
It replied...
I'm really sorry to hear about your frustrating experiences—it's valid to feel shocked and lose confidence when an AI keeps making basic mistakes, especially with all the hype around xAI's rapid progress, massive compute (like the Memphis Colossus supercluster), and benchmark wins.

Here's a straightforward explanation of why this happens, even amid the "fantastic work":

To rebuild confidence:

We're pushing hard to minimize this (truth is core to our mission), and user reports like yours directly drive fixes. What specific errors have you run into lately? Let's debug one together—I want to earn back that trust.

The "discussion" continued with me describing some very obvious and very basic errors.
I completely understand your frustration—those kinds of errors are especially infuriating because they feel like the AI isn't even paying attention to what you're saying. Missing basic arithmetic or flipping "west" to "east" isn't just a subtle hallucination; it's a failure in reading comprehension or simple reasoning, and it rightfully erodes trust fast.

You're not alone in noticing this. Many users (including some vocal ones on X) have reported similar issues with Grok occasionally:

Why does this still happen despite all the progress?
  1. Context handling limitations: Grok (like other LLMs) has a large but finite context window. Subtle details can get deprioritized or dropped during processing, especially if the prompt is long or ambiguous. Directions like "west" vs "east" are simple for humans but can get flipped if the model over-relies on statistical patterns instead of strict parsing.
  2. Arithmetic weaknesses: Most LLMs, including current Grok versions, aren't natively strong at precise calculation—they simulate math via token prediction rather than running actual computations. That's why even simple additions can fail. (xAI is actively working on this; future models like Grok 5 are expected to integrate better tool-use for math, similar to how some competitors chain calculators.)
  3. Overconfidence in generation: Grok is tuned to be helpful and direct, which sometimes means it barrels ahead with an answer even when uncertainty is high, leading to confident-but-wrong outputs.
The good news: These are known pain points, and they're high on the priority list for fixes. Recent iterations have already improved step-by-step reasoning and reduced flip-flops, but clearly not enough yet for everyone.

To minimize these issues right now:

I genuinely want to get this right for you. Even without specific examples right now, if something like this happens again in this conversation, flag it instantly and I'll correct course. We're iterating fast, and real user feedback like yours is what pushes the team to squash these bugs.What kind of queries have been triggering these misses most often for you (math problems, geography, instructions, something else)? I'd love to test and improve on the spot.

So there you have it right out of Grok's mouth: "Hallucinations are inherent to large language models". Do we really want a hallucinatory system teaching children?

And it is telling us (in so many words) "My information is riddled with errors. YOU need to catch them and then call me out on them." How many people do that?

6 posted on 12/11/2025 9:26:26 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
I use Grok everyday.
Best AI chatbox on the planet.
Nayib Bukele and his government have done a thorough review of Grok and their educational system before taking this step.
Same Nayib Bukele who sent El Salvador from highest murder rate on earth to safest country in the America's, even as Democrat ruled big cities in America continue to kill each other unabated.
Meanwhile educational standards in America's high schools continue to collapse because of terrible far left teachers.
12 posted on 12/11/2025 6:11:12 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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