- Ancient Egypt DNA: Are Modern Egyptians Related to Ancient Egyptians? [12/11/2025]
- Did the Arab Conquest Replace the Ancient Egyptians? The Myth of Population Replacement [12/11/2025]
Posted on 12/11/2025 6:10:15 AM PST by Cronos
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Is this W. Paul van Pelt related to Linus van Pelt? Of course Snoopy is Charlie Brown’s dog, not Linus’.
Or that Cleopatra was black (as so many believe).
She was Greek.
The 4th-century Roman historian Ammianus Marcellinus has this to say about Egyptians' appearance:
"Now the men of Egypt are, as a rule, somewhat swarthy and dark of complexion..." (22.16.23)
The Latin reads: Homines autem Aegyptii plerique subfusculi sunt et atrati...
Subfusculus is from fuscus, "dark-colored, dark, black"--the sub prefix would indicate "somewhat." Atratus is from ater, "black. dark."
St. Paul was mistaken for an Egyptian (Acts 21.38) by a Roman chiliarch in Jerusalem--who obviously thought that a white man might be an Egyptian. The Roman didn't think Paul was a Jew from Alexandria but a regular Egyptian.
Midianites or Ishmaelites sold Joseph as a slave in Egypt (Genesis 37). They were white, but not Europeans.
Cleopatra was Greek. Most of the ancient Egyptians were Greek. Negroes did not fly biplanes around the pyramids. Well actually they did until the White man stole their technology. White man always trying to keep the Black man down.
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After that, they vowed “Never Again!” and moved to Wakanda ...
“many markers of Greek and Roman identity”
The “We wuz Egypzun Kangz” afrocentrist crowd ain’t gonna like this.
Yes. Sub-Saharan Africans could claim the Nubians or the builders of Great Zimbabwe.
“white” is a skin tone.
Perhaps you mean the rough term “Caucasian”
And yes, Arabs, Indians (including the dark skinned Tamils), etc. are all “Caucasian”
Cleopatra was Macedonian by ancestry, with perhaps some Egyptian ancestry. In Hellenistic times there were lots of Greeks in Alexandria and in some other places in Egypt, but the original Egyptian population was not Greek. DNA studies show they were mostly related to the people of western Asia (with some sub-Saharan ancestry mixed in).
Why are whites called Caucasians anyway? The populations of the Caucasus (Armenians, Georgians, etc.) form a very small fraction of the white people of the world.
“BCE” has been around for a while. I think I first encountered it in 1970.“
You will see a pattern among those who use it.
Cleopatra was Macedonian by ancestry,
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I was quoting another poster hence the —
Sorry, didn’t notice the line. The original poster was evidently being sarcastic.
I remember a professor saying we should use BCE and CE because BC and AD would offend Muslims. From her surname I believe she was Jewish.
“Most of the ancient Egyptians were Greek”
—> that is incorrect, so, so incorrect.
The “Greeks” who were the ruling elite of the Egyptian kingdom from 300 BC to 50 BC were Macedonians technically, a part-Greek, part-Thracian/Dacian entity.
These were only ever the top tier of the elite, like the top 0.1% of the population.
The Ptolemy’s mostly married themselves - brothers to sisters or at most to first cousins, so they were heavily inbred.
But these Ptolemys were only the 33rd - yes, the THIRTY-THIRD dynasty ruling over the Egyptians.
Most of the prior dynasties were native Egyptian - but there were also the “Black Pharoahs” - the Nubians who were definitely dark skinned.
There was also the Assyrian dynasty, the Libyan and prior to that the Hyksos dynasties.
Mohammedans don’t mind the use of the terms Before Christ and AD - they use their own Hegira calendar, but BC and AD don’t offend them as “Isa” is a prophet in their philosophy
Her ancestors don’t matter. She was a professor and thus 99% chance she was an indoctrinated leftist.
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