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Economist Peter Schiff challenges President Trump to a debate after Trump called him a loser and a jerk on Truth Social
MSN ^ | Dec 7 | Hannah Collymore

Posted on 12/07/2025 4:55:23 AM PST by RandFan

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To: Governor Dinwiddie

I remember i.


41 posted on 12/07/2025 8:04:17 AM PST by dpetty121263
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Another Democrat policy…….”Increase wages”

Policies have consequences, and the ‘socialist candy in the politicians pockets’ policies have been sold as a vector to those who have chosen poorly on prior policies.

Yes, there are many factors and perhaps it is a little complex. I am trying to simplify it “if Americans don’t make anything, or builds anything, there becomes no value in our economy, no real jobs, no downstream jobs, and dependency on foreign goods which devalue or currency and buying power until everything is unaffordable”. Democrats have championed everything BUT making things affordable. Make them accountable, make Congress accountable. Force a balanced budget Amendment with teeth and consequences for Congress if they fail.


42 posted on 12/07/2025 8:09:38 AM PST by Pete Dovgan
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To: Brian Griffin

You have fascinating neighbors. Threads I see you comment on always has some anecdote about said “neigbors”...


43 posted on 12/07/2025 8:10:54 AM PST by dakine
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To: 9YearLurker

Trump picks some weird enemies. May be a fatal flaw politically.


44 posted on 12/07/2025 8:24:49 AM PST by ilgipper (The mob only destroys. Never creates. )
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To: ilgipper

That we’ll likely all pay for in November, 2026.


45 posted on 12/07/2025 8:41:59 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: dpetty121263

Thats a problem because no politician has the guts to take that big of a hit even if it’s necessary.


46 posted on 12/07/2025 8:47:56 AM PST by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: RandFan

Go ahead and have a debate about the US economy. But with it has to be a debate on its relationship with the world and how to handle the foreign diplomacy involved with the interaction of what other countries bring to and take away from us and how to negotiate it. Zeroing in on one piece of a puzzle is not determining anything but what that part needs. Not why and how to get it.

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47 posted on 12/07/2025 8:49:57 AM PST by whitney69 (`)
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To: RandFan

Schiff sells gold.
Simple as that.


48 posted on 12/07/2025 9:00:34 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ LIFE )
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To: RandFan

“Economist” Peter Schiff has a bachelors degree in accounting. Maybe you become an economist once you claim to be one.

He did reveal that he had better judgement than Art Laffer when it came to recognizing that there was a huge mortgage bubble in 2008. I wonder if Laffer ever paid off that bet.


49 posted on 12/07/2025 9:12:57 AM PST by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: RandFan

It’s all about perception. You can point out that gas prices are dropping, true. Eggs are down, true, milk cost less true. But if people’s perception is that ‘things’ just cost more then none of that matters. Housing is too expensive as are cars. Drug price can be crippling especially for older people on fixed incomes. Clothing, least according to my wife, is way up from last year.

Bottom line it doesn’t matter who caused it, it matters who is in office and are they fixing it. Rather than doing his usual, “everything I touch is perfect” schtick, Trump would be better served to acknowledge the concern and place the blame where it rightly belongs. Then explain how his policies are making it better, but that it’s going to take time to clean up Biden’s mess and that electing the same democrats in 2026 who got us in this mess won’t help.

This is going to be a challenge for Republicans next year. The democrats think they have a winning issue and they, with the help of the media will do everything they can to make it a winning one.


50 posted on 12/07/2025 9:16:53 AM PST by redangus
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To: mewzilla
Peter Schiff is annoyed because he’s Deep State.
Peter Schiff is Deep State?! His father was Irwin Schiff, a hardcore libertarian who was constantly bing dragged into court by the State.

Unintentionally hilarious answer by Perplexity.ai:

Is Peter Schiff related to Irwin Schiff?
Short answer: No. Peter Schiff is the son of Irwin Schiff, but they are not closely related beyond that father–son relationship.


Peter Schiff is also quite libertarian. Not Deep State. Trump often annoys libertarians. The smart ones understand that he is better than the alternatives.
51 posted on 12/07/2025 9:20:14 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: kvanbrunt2

“”His dad went to jail fighting the IRS and he is a wealthy investor.””

Was his dad the one who advocated stop the filing of tax returns - late ‘60’s, early ‘70’s???


52 posted on 12/07/2025 9:27:08 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: BobL

In reality there were plenty of people who knew that we were in a huge housing bubble. You can probably find the FR group by searching for ex-Texan who kind of was the leader of the pack.

Here in SoCal USC economist Chris Thornburg warned about it long before it blew. SoCal was ground zero of the subprime lending industry and reporters were writing about the crazy lending. The Housing Bubble Blog website had been a gathering site for maybe three years. Peter Schiff and Michael Burry weren’t unique they simply have a talent for self promtion.


53 posted on 12/07/2025 9:44:04 AM PST by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: RandFan

This would not go well for Schiff. Trump has destroyed one after another of the folks who challenged him and many of them are much more agile and experienced speakers than Schiff.


54 posted on 12/07/2025 9:52:04 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: MrRelevant

Has he predicted eight of the last one recessions?


55 posted on 12/07/2025 9:53:58 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: MinorityRepublican

Fannie and Freddy’s problem was one of too little capital. This didn’t have anything to do with the massive non-conforming lending by shadow banks,the credit default swaps, the misrated debt and the other craziness that was the actual problem.


56 posted on 12/07/2025 10:02:02 AM PST by Pelham (President Eisenhower. Operation Wetback 1953-54)
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To: redangus

“Housing is too expensive as are cars.“

Cars could be the thing that really pushes hard economically. People have given up looking at the total cost and only care now about the monthly. On top of that they rollover unpaid prior loans into new car loans. On top of that cars are WILDLY high tech and can be extremely expensive to repair. But people NEED cars to function economically. When they are underwater on a 3 or 4 yr old car and it develops a 6 or eight thousand dollar problem…what do they do?


57 posted on 12/07/2025 10:10:44 AM PST by TalBlack (Their god is government. Prepare for a religious war.https://freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=4322961%2)
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To: RandFan

Trump shouldn’t waste his time debating anyone.


58 posted on 12/07/2025 10:34:37 AM PST by chopperk
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To: MinorityRepublican

“The Bush Admin and Senator McCain warned repeatedly about Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac and what thus became the 2008 financial crisis”

That was a symptom, but they NEVER warned there would be a crash in prices, as Shiff, Me, and that Big Short guy did.


59 posted on 12/07/2025 10:40:13 AM PST by BobL (Trusting one's doctor is the #1 health mistake one can make.)
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To: BobL
You need to watch the video. Greenspan pointed out that the entire financial system was at risk. Schumer praised Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for making housing loans available for more people.

Bush and McCain saw the risks at the time but the Democrats refused to do something about it because they did not want to take away a program that was benefitting their voters.

60 posted on 12/07/2025 10:45:53 AM PST by MinorityRepublican
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