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AI Beats Radiologists in Detecting Pancreatic Cancer on Routine CT Scans
MEDPAGE TODAY ^ | November 22, 2025 | Mike Bassett

Posted on 11/25/2025 2:40:02 PM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 11/25/2025 2:40:02 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Good, we can stop paying radiologists in India for reading our diagnostic imaging systems.


2 posted on 11/25/2025 2:50:13 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Carry_Okie

I haven’t heard of that.


3 posted on 11/25/2025 2:52:45 PM PST by nickcarraway
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There’s a lot of hype about “AI”, which usually means some sort of LLM, without much seeming to come from it.

But here and there, on the margins, there are news stories like this showing versions of AI with actual, real world application.

And then there’s the authors of Alphafold getting the Nobel prize last year, and accurately predicting the structure of ~200 million different proteins.

And I recently learned that various AI systems have “solved” ~10 of Paul Erdős famous math problems, though some say that they just were able to find previously published solutions that had been overlooked. That’s impressive enought.

When these things are doing math, and science, and making actually useful interpretations of medical imaging, it’s going way past hype into something that seems much more significant.

And it’s happening really fast.


4 posted on 11/25/2025 3:00:08 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: nickcarraway
This is great, actually. Specifically machine learning can be used to recognize patterns.

However, patients will still consult physicians to interpret the results and discuss treatment.

5 posted on 11/25/2025 3:00:32 PM PST by HonkyTonkMan ( )
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To: nickcarraway

Yet it surmises that a 1-3/16” socket is actually being confused with an 1-1/16” 27 mm size ? AI fails to impress, lacks basis of thought.


6 posted on 11/25/2025 3:01:20 PM PST by Recompennation ( Deeeeeeeeezout )
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To: HonkyTonkMan

Narrow focus, expert systems are what is beneficial, like this. Expert systems enhance human experts and are regarded as tools. But only in a narrow targeted scope/field.


7 posted on 11/25/2025 3:02:37 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: nickcarraway

My BIL is a retired Radiologist.

He worked 15 hours a day for 3 weeks and then took a week off. The long hours and volume of work was affecting his health so he retired at age 62.


8 posted on 11/25/2025 3:04:45 PM PST by DFG
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You’re not serious, are you?


9 posted on 11/25/2025 3:19:34 PM PST by roving
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If you want to sum up what AI is exceptionally good at in a few words, it is “detecting patterns”.


10 posted on 11/25/2025 3:20:40 PM PST by bigbob (We are all Charlie Kirk now,)
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Making predictions based on complex patterns.


11 posted on 11/25/2025 3:37:05 PM PST by LambSlave
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You’re not serious, are you?

I was told by a doc at Kaiser that they have been electronically transferring radiological images to India for reading.

12 posted on 11/25/2025 4:16:15 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: SE Mom

BIG news ping!


13 posted on 11/25/2025 4:35:27 PM PST by NautiNurse (Start by admitting from cradle to tomb, it isn't that long a stay. Life is a cabaret! )
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Is it cheaper?


14 posted on 11/25/2025 5:03:08 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: nickcarraway

AI voice: Turn your head and cough.


15 posted on 11/25/2025 5:12:15 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn’t become your biography, what good is it?)
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Is it cheaper?

Depends on whether your life is worth a potentially life saving early diagnosis for one of the most deadly cancers due to failure to detect in its early stages.

Hang tight to your money. You can always take it with you into the afterlife.

16 posted on 11/25/2025 5:20:37 PM PST by NautiNurse (Start by admitting from cradle to tomb, it isn't that long a stay. Life is a cabaret! )
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To: nickcarraway
AI achieved statistically non-inferior and superior performance in detecting pancreatic cancer compared with a pool of participating radiologists.

Is this news? I was under the impression that for decades it was routine for a CT scan or MRI scan to have the machine's image analyzing software review the image to try to find things to point out to the tech worker/ doctor. Quite often the image analyzer found something the tech worker would have overlooked.

17 posted on 11/25/2025 5:47:05 PM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: absalom01

....and who loses?

Pretty school there will be no good reason for careers in radiology much less med school.


18 posted on 11/25/2025 6:42:42 PM PST by thesligoduffyflynns
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To: nickcarraway

You can upload a picture of your moles on to ChatGPT it will read it for you

Of course I went to dermatologist to make sure

Both ChatGPT and dermatologist told me the exact same thing.


19 posted on 11/25/2025 8:53:39 PM PST by forYourChildrenVote4Bush
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“And it’s happening really fast.”

Yep, AI is going to dwarf the industrial and internet revolutions.

As a result it will cause major cultural and societal upheavals.

Buckle up!


20 posted on 11/25/2025 10:32:31 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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