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1 posted on 11/24/2025 8:45:25 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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If you have to build a power plant just to run an AI data center something’s wrong.


2 posted on 11/24/2025 9:10:21 PM PST by McGruff
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America needs a dual energy grid plan. One that allows local nuclear energy for AI and data centers and a residential grid.


3 posted on 11/24/2025 9:11:10 PM PST by Jonty30 (I've been diagnosed as being polemic and there is no cure. )
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All AI centers should be required to operate on nuclear power only...
That would get those small-reactor technologies into operation very quickly...


4 posted on 11/24/2025 9:35:39 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is rabble-rising Sam Adams now that we need him? Is his name Trump, now?)
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If the power demand spikes have millisecond periods, capacitors make more sense than batteries.


5 posted on 11/24/2025 11:28:33 PM PST by Paul R. (Old Viking saying: "Never be more than 3 steps away from your weapon ... or a Uriah Heep song!" ;-))
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Here's Grok's assessment of this "article":

The original article is straight-up newsletter clickbait. It correctly identifies the real problem—AI data centers are blowing up electricity demand and creating potentially problematic harmonics—but then pretends the grid is frozen in time and “only batteries can save us.” Total nonsense in 2025.

What it conveniently leaves out:

Batteries are useful for smoothing millisecond spikes and harmonics, but they’re a sidekick, not the hero. The heavy lifting is coming from new baseload (mostly gas short-term, nuclear medium-term) and private generation.

The article isn’t analysis—it’s a sales funnel dressed up as insight. The power crunch is real, but the “buy battery stocks today or get left behind” pitch is pure 2025 hype.

6 posted on 11/25/2025 1:11:09 AM PST by RoosterRedux (“Critical thinking is hard; that’s why most people just jump to conclusions.”—Jung (paraphrased))
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Haven’t been impressed with GROK lately... When asking some simple questions GROK got the dates all wrong talking about post Thanksgiving holiday, then I said it’s not even Thanksgiving yet, GROK said , you’re right it’s on only Sunday the 24th. I said wrong again it’s Monday the 24th. GROK said I’m right again..... Pretty sad.


9 posted on 11/25/2025 4:02:16 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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NY State is forcing all homes and business to go electric.
Electric heat for the coldest winter days, yea!

Government meddling driving idiotic decisions

PS> What type of power generation is going to fill up those batteries??


10 posted on 11/25/2025 5:20:13 AM PST by Steven Tyler
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Decades of public policy said we must restrict fossil fuel electric plants "to save the planet" from air pollution and "global warming." Decades of propaganda and a glacial regulatory environment told us that if we built nuke plants too quickly or too many of them we'd get Hiroshima in our living room.

Now because a bunch of tech oligarchs need power for AI datacenters it's Shazaam! - decades of public policy get thrown immediately out the window.

I'm glad we'll get the extra power generation, but there are few things that illustrate how far down the road to oligarchy the US has gone than this.

13 posted on 11/25/2025 6:19:13 AM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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My question is, will eventually the LLMs be hosted on local machines without requiring the massive data centers? I could see in 5-10 years the LLMs as powerful as what we have now could simply be firmware on your laptop.

Of course this would shift the electricity demand from the data centers to the homes.


15 posted on 11/25/2025 6:29:37 AM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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17 posted on 11/25/2025 6:37:26 AM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too. 😁 " - Robert Conquest )
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In 2022, they consumed about 17 gigawatts ("GW") of power. (For reference, the Hoover Dam only produces about 2 GW per year.)

An author that does not know when to use Watt (power) and when Watt-hours (energy) is not to be trusted.

19 posted on 11/25/2025 7:39:54 AM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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These strains on the power grid actually cause shifts in the alternating current frequency. The power grid operates at a precise frequency (e.g., 60 Hz in North America). A deviation can be damaging to equipment like TVs, stereos, microwaves, stove electronics, dishwasher electronics, and life support equipment. Where I live, we have power outages due to power lines getting broken by tree fall. Many times we have had to replace TVs and kitchen appliances after those events.


21 posted on 11/25/2025 10:36:55 AM PST by jonrick46 (Leftniks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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