Posted on 11/21/2025 2:11:54 PM PST by delta7
China’s CIPS payment system now operates in 185 countries, enabling yuan-based trade outside the dollar.
52 trillion yuan in transactions were settled through CIPS in 2023, covering 58% of China’s cross-border flows.
BRICS launched a yuan-pegged stablecoin and plans rupee bonds to expand use of local currencies.
The BRICS-linked Cross-Border Interbank Payments System (CIPS) has expanded across 185 countries, allowing international payments in Chinese yuan without using the U.S. dollar, according to data from the New Development Bank (NDB).
CIPS was launched by China and managed by its central bank as “a real alternative for global trade settlements.”
At the Shanghai Oil and Gas Exchange, liquefied natural gas contracts are now priced for and paid in yuan. Same thing with soybeans from the Shenzhen Qianhai Joint Trading Center.
China has allegedly already signed 40 settlement agreements with other countries, with total settlements through CIPS hitting 52 trillion yuan earlier this year, equal to 58% of China’s total cross-border transactions, a figure that tops the dollar in some measures.
Trade between China and Russia has been settled in local currencies for three straight years, covering 95% of their total trade volume. Still, not every country has joined the yuan system.
Europe, North America, and Australia have kept their distance, while developing economies in Africa, Asia, and Eastern Europe are using CIPS more frequently, especially for Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) loan repayments.
China expands yuan use through CIPS and new stablecoin
Meanwhile, US president Donald Trump has rejected neoliberal globalization, saying it will restore American dominance. His policies have isolated Washington’s allies and left the European Union struggling....
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All Sovereign nations have taken note, and it appears there is nothing President Trump can do to stop it.
China’s and the Greatest Ponzi scheme ever
The US stole a sovereign nations wealth fund...it sank the US. Many foreign ministers have stated this, no wonder the world is dumping our Treasuries ( debt instruments) ....thanks Joe.
This is mainly for sanctioned countries like Russia, Iran and Venezuela. The problem with a currency like the yuan is capital controls. An international currency with these controls is a contradiction in terms. Mark Mobius, a legend in emerging markets mutual funds, had trouble getting his money out of China. People large sums in yuan want to switch out of the currency immediately.
[The US stole a sovereign nations wealth fund...it sank the US. Many foreign ministers have stated this, no wonder the world is dumping our Treasuries ( debt instruments) ....thanks Joe.]
[The US stole a sovereign nations wealth fund...it sank the US. Many foreign ministers have stated this, no wonder the world is dumping our Treasuries ( debt instruments) ....thanks Joe.]
Note that no one expected either Pearl Harbor, or a Japanese lunge for Australia. Japan had a very thin record of expansion, established less than 50 years prior, with the addition of Korea and Formosa (aka Taiwan). Whereas China has a long record of empire-building, interrupted only by 2 centuries of weakness, from its start millennia earlier as a village on the Yellow River. But just prior to its 19th century weakness, the ruling house had doubled the size of the Ming empire it defeated.
Not just Joe. The process started in 1980, when America stopped being a creditor nation.
America and Canada had until about 2005 to fix their finances without pain. Now, there will be a lot of pain. The longer it takes us to start, the more paid we will have to go through to fix it.
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Sure. Why not trust a yuan currency mechanism and having your their transaction ledgers controlled by China?
This will be the most consequential result of the Biden administration’s $Multi-Billion dollar foreign policy debacle which resulted in hostilities in Ukraine. It never would have happened if President Trump had not been cheated in the 2020 election.
Jackasses will blame BRICS, but the dollar isn’t a safe haven anymore. It once was “almighty,” until we weaponized and devalued it with outrageous spending on warmaking and socialism.
Even doctors and PLUMBERS don’t want dollars, unless it’s lots and lots of them. Who can blame foreign investors for running away from it? I don’t want dollars, and get them out of the bank into something real as soon as possible.
Instead of getting mad at BRICS, dummies should start turning dollars into hard assets, becoming self sufficient and getting ready for MUCH less buying power, or even possible systemic failure.
Lowering tariffs on bananas won’t help much.
[Jackasses will blame BRICS, but the dollar isn’t a safe haven anymore. It once was “almighty,” until we weaponized and devalued it with outrageous spending on warmaking and socialism.]
Asset freezes are normal in special circumstances. The US literally stole German assets in WW1 and WW2 for war financing. Not just money and real property. Patents, trademarks*, licenses - all were stolen. Germany, of course, did the same to US assets there.
* The Bayer trademark reverted to its German parent 70 years after being seized, in the US, by the government. It had to be bought back from its US owner.
All Sovereign nations have taken note, and it appears there is nothing President Trump can do to stop it.
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Trump is now saying there is 20 trillion dollars worth of new investments coming into the USA.(byo of comparison a total of 1 trillion dollars worth of new capital investments were made during the biden years.) So I’m not so sure that it matters. The aim is to return home much of the USA manufacturing base that has migrated overseas in the last 50 years. As well, the object is to first bring the trade deficit back into balance and then when the US masters the tools of the next industrial revolution—run up export surpluses.
What we’re seeing rather is a rebalancing. We’re also going to see GDP gtowth o 5% plus for years to come. Restraining federal spending is what they are doing now. The growth and the explosion in the stock market AND new tarriff revenue is going to bring trillions into the federal coffers and balance the federal budget by late 2027.
Pretty much the same thing happened in the late 1990’s. The feds under newt gingrich restrained spending while the economic growth and stock market expansion poured money into the federal government and balanced the budget.
When the stock market boom abated in 2021—the federal budget went back into deficit again. This time the boom will have more legs because there is an industrial revolution behind it.
[Jackasses will blame BRICS, but the dollar isn’t a safe haven anymore. It once was “almighty,” until we weaponized and devalued it with outrageous spending on warmaking and socialism.]
Yeah, suuuuuuure it is. That's why it's devaluing so quickly and investors - entire nations - are looking for alternatives, and finding them as we speak.
What you call normal "asset freezes," the investor/victims call "theft." Eastern nations or anyone imagining their nation getting on some rash-thinking POTUS' s**t-list won't want any part of it. They're walking away right NOW - while you're telling us it won't happen.
And over an insignificant trash heap - Ukraine - nothing nearly as significant as WWII. Unlike WWII we lost.
Also service people and retailers don't want dollars - why should global investors?
Though you have been noticeably absent on the threads, you’re a BIGFIME Zeeper.
Your failboat has arrived and your creds are on it.
[Yeah, suuuuuuure it is. That’s why it’s devaluing so quickly and investors - entire nations - are looking for alternatives, and finding them as we speak.]
Real estate, metals and sometimes oil, but not oil right now.
Good question!
My cash is out of the bank as soon as I can find a place for it. Not interested in losing 10% plus per year.
After senile Joe’s term, the world governments see how quickly everything can change in four years. They know President Trump’s time is short.
They also know the next Democrat will abolish all of Trump’s initiatives.
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