Stop Overpaying For Internet: SpaceX Starlink vs Amazon Leo

I forgot to mention that I am also using VPN.. slows it down a bit more.

Ditched the dish this spring after 25+ years. I am stuck with a portable hard drive with a couple hundred taped movies but can’t find a way to convert the files to mp4 or similar. Any ideas for me?

PS I am not interested in another internet or tv choice.

I’d be thinking, how does starlink see thru vpn? Is there a backdoor in your local starlink code. In router part?

I don't know. They get notifications from the aggrieved party listing the supposed illegal download. Here's the notice on one of them: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 To: STARLINK DATE: 2025-06-04 CASE ID: 9ac70a99660c40ebb5d6 Dear STARLINK: We are contacting you on behalf of NBCUniversal and/or its subsidiary and affiliated companies (collectively, NBCUniversal). Vobile, Inc. is authorized to act on behalf of NBCUniversal, who is the copyright owner and/or owner of exclusive rights in such content identified below. We have become aware that an individual has utilized the IP address 98.97.3.12 at the recorded date and time below to download, host, and/or facilitate the downloading and/or streaming of video content that is exclusively owned by NBCUniversal. Such unauthorized distribution of NBCUniversal content without the express written authorization of NBCUniversal constitutes copyright infringement. This conduct may also violate the laws of other countries, international law, and/or treaty obligations. We have a good faith belief that the use of the copyrighted material identified below is not authorized by NBCUniversal, its agent, or the law. The title in question: Nosferatu As the owner of the IP address, we request that you immediately assist in removing and disabling access to the infringing material from your network. Additionally we request that you contact the subscriber who has engaged in the conduct described above and take further steps to prevent the subscriber from unauthorized future use and sharing of NBCUniversal content. Copyright infringement is illegal and in violation of your Internet Service Provider?s terms of service. We understand that you may not have known that your account was being used to access infringing copies of movies and/or TV shows but, to prevent serious legal and other consequences, it is important that you take immediate steps to prevent your account from being used for infringement again. These steps can include: 1. Instruct people who have access to your account to stop downloading or uploading unauthorized, infringing copies of movies or TV shows. 2. Permanently delete all unauthorized copies of movies and TV shows from your devices(s). 3. Visit https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://creativefuture.org/why__;!!BCdeQF820Q!CL_PYDWUWlSTiJ5CWtq1 Q7XU6G-92W-iyZtLqQEQN40rRMrSzQ4wbCPu5XkF-xHZ29IFXihBRNcF_XEw7-W0THQy$ to find out more about how the illegal distribution of copyrighted movies and TV shows damages our economy and costs American jobs. We state, under penalty of perjury, that the information in this notification is accurate and that we are authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the exclusive right that is allegedly infringed herein. Nothing in this notice shall operate as a waiver of any rights, claims, or remedies available to NBCUniversal with respect to the infringement alleged herein. All such rights, claims, and remedies are hereby expressly reserved. If you have any questions, you can contact NBCUniversal by email at GCP.Questions@nbcuni.com. Please cite, in the subject line, the Reference ID noted at the top of this letter. Sincerely, Ben Sodos Vobile, Inc. Address: 2880 Lakeside Drive, Suite 200 Santa Clara, CA 95054, United States Email: p2p@copyright-notice.com 408.217.5026 - ------------- Infringement Details ---------------------------------- Title: Nosferatu Timestamp: 2025-06-04T20:56:48Z IP Address: 98.97.3.12 Port: 20868 Type: BitTorrent Torrent Hash: 29c1710915217b66d9c3d370c754cc17c12202b4 Filename: Nosferatu 2024 1080p WEB-DL HEVC x265 5.1 BONE.mkv Filesize: 1906 MB - --------------------------------------------------------------------- 9ac70a99660c40ebb5d6 Open Normal NBC UNIVERSAL Vobile - Compliance

2880 Lakeside Drive, Suite 200 Santa Clara, CA 95054

+1 (408) 492 1100 p2p@copyright-notice.com STARLINK starlink-abuse@spacex.com 2025-06-04T20:56:48Z 98.97.3.12 20868 BitTorrent 1 2025-06-04T20:56:48Z Nosferatu 2024 1080p WEB-DL HEVC x265 5.1 BONE.mkv 1998723535 29c1710915217b66d9c3d370c754cc17c12202b4 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJoQLMWAAoJEN5LM3Etqs/WLIoIAKbulDh0vIWUy+A9nvpy82Af ks2HiWAlh6Yy1UomMXQCKpV5ThAQ3b/S0UtJHeOUdyeP37zJRprAmU7GCvrV4s1p 2WOIAb5kqTqWAXguaKD/xIRYwtdMEYR2uHs2BUsNO1hHFqNQq0tKbBgzo9ROgql0 s+xXevu+/fmzXgO+9Z4Xekp/B0NLemK0DcuY1WU6C7ibm6+5qTVLjri1JfPFH1hf +yiFTNM2WelypxED2zOcfPVGW6fGYX3DgZkf9sJSW4ScAVWE6jAX2TWj3qJ36G+B PTEDJjQgNL9xUsWQbhNdhNg3d0sAEBzVVBfol8XbAZZ2nV02VS6fBHVnr37fM5I= =UGXh -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

grandson and I looked and he was for sure using a vpn so I'm not sure what was happening and I don't know what the capabilities are or even if the aggrieved party has a legit complaint. Didn't seem worth fighting over.

I also use a VPN, ExpressVPN, so it’s not that causing your slowdown.

We have ATT at home and Hughes net at our rural property. I think we’re going to switch to Star link when we move up to the rural property. Its not that much more.

Starlink is perfect. Nothing Amazon puts together will ever convince me to change.

I think we are paying $150 a month for Starlink with an RV dish on our house. Don’t care. I couldn’t work with Hughes Net falling off all the time. No issues at all with Starlink. We live sort of in the country although there is lots of new house construction nearby. I love Starlink, wouldn’t trade it for anything.

At our lake house, we are paying $120 a month.

I have Spectrum too... and yeah it’s not cheap.

If I had Starlink could I get FOXNews on it? FoxBusiness? You mention phones... your cellphones? Last major hurricane we had power but no TV, no land line phones or computers. Than heavens for cellphones. That wa it for communication with the outside world.

bttt

Spectrum has a promo department - that not the right name for it, but they might be running one that will slash your bill for 6 months [ until the promo expires ], then you have to call again for a new promo.

Starlink is just an internet connection. If you had electricity to connect to the Starlink box you have internet. I have a smart TV so I can get Fox News through a subscription. Newsmax is free. We have YouTube and Amazon.

Thanks lucky ...

Is international calling, international internet available?

Seems like it would be. (I want to get away from Verizon. )

“The 100MbPS is too slow to view videos online. It will be constant buffer.”

Stop smoking whatever it is you are smoking.

I routinely use a Starlink Mini in West Texas, offshore GOA rural West Louisiana and far East Texas to stream 1080I/P and at the same time stream drilling data back to the ops.center and back from them in real time.

My firewall and vpn both have down to the port bandwidth monitoring. A 1080P 60 frames per second maxed out at 8 megabits per second, even a full 60fps 4K steam is maxed at 25 Mbps. The drilling data quadcombo MWD and gyro data is under 1 Mbps in real time. Even look ahead seismic which virtually no one but Exxon can afford is under 2 Mbps real time.

I have two Starlink minis one mounted on the Model 3 the other goes with the F250 or me everywhere I go it’s backpack portable smaller than the 17” laptop it’s supporting, heck I open the Wi-Fi up behind the firewall and vpn for the rig guys to use for Wi-Fi calling, WhatsApp, and Netflix too it’s a great way to make friends when your orange helmet gets on site. Never ever had to limit their bandwidth the firewall does packet level shaping of load and it never hard caps a single user. I only set priority for the outbound and inbound drilling data ports everything else is equally served. Slink mini is 200 Mbps max out but it typically sits in the 100-150 range so right at what the 100Mbps service level would be. If you have Starlink home and were grandfathered in mini is $30 a month each and works in motion too without the 50GB cap it’s good to be grandfathered you can buy Roam priority access that has in motion or ocean access too. In the GOA you must even when grandfathered in use ocean mode and that’s always 50GB then $2 per GB over that. I use it for WhatsApp and Wi-Fi calling to the wife and just bill the client for any geological data usage so the price per GB is moot they pay for every GB and my helicopter ride out there too.

Amazon is using higher Ka band they will have a smartphone sized ultra mini phased array set up. It’s 7 inch by 7 inch and 1 lb with 100 megabits per second. This is small enough to put in the top pocket of a day pack and trek around with it in real time. Every geologist in the field will have that set up bank on it. Starlink Mini is the size of a good sized laptop and heavy enough you wouldn’t carry it all day on your back. It’s due to the microwave frequency that it uses higher frequency tighter beams or smaller phased array for equal sized beams.

That ultra mini LEO dish is a game changer for mobile use. Set it on a dashboard anywhere world wide and you have a Wi-Fi connection for a 100 meter around bubble. Again field work , camping, treking, offshore boating, everywhere all the time. If you know what you are doing your smartphone will behave as if it’s in the USA everywhere on earth ,no international long-distance,no SMS fees, WhatsApp everywhere, Skype,FaceTime all of it as long as that little hotspot does device sees the sky your smartphone just works and Netflix too.

I love Starlink and wife knows Elon personally so I guess I do too via the Kevin Bacon method love the guy. However it’s physics and I will certainly have at least one LEO ultra mini phased array for mobile use probably two they will supplement the larger faster Slink minis.