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Stop Overpaying For Internet: SpaceX Starlink vs Amazon Leo
YouTube ^ | 11/21/2025 | JCristina

Posted on 11/21/2025 1:53:31 PM PST by SmokingJoe

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To: lucky american

How’s the downlink during heavy rain?


21 posted on 11/21/2025 2:44:17 PM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: SmokingJoe

Even if I wanted it, the apartment complex I am moving to next month ONLY has Spectrum :^p


22 posted on 11/21/2025 2:45:11 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: The Unknown Republican
“We require two dishes at $120/month each ($240/month total) since we have ten people using it (6 kids, my parents, me and the wife that both work from home).

Grok:

No, you do not need 2 Starlink dishes for a house with 10 people.
One single Starlink dish/router is fully sufficient in almost all cases—even for 10+ people—as long as you choose the right plan and have realistic expectations.

23 posted on 11/21/2025 2:46:24 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: iamgalt

Can’t afford the kit, plus what I mentioned above.. the apartment I am heading to next month ONLY has Spectrum.
They won’t allow anything else.


24 posted on 11/21/2025 2:46:42 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: SmokingJoe

Fun Factoid

Amazon’s Kuiper, now called LEO, had bargained, negotiated with several launch providers to place the LEO satellites in orbit. The Amazon Board decided to not even consider the least expensive and most reliable launch provider on the planet. Yes, SpaceX. The Amazon Stockholders found out and protested. SpaceX ended up launching three times for Amazon.

The latest reuse record for a Falcon 9 first stage is 31 launches.


25 posted on 11/21/2025 2:47:00 PM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try )
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To: SmokingJoe

We have dual ISPs load balanced... Spectrum Cable (1gbps symmetrical) and ATT Fiber (1gbps symmetrical)... Load balanced through a Firewalla Gold+.... Internet is always up.... Each ISP is roughly $85 a month.


26 posted on 11/21/2025 2:47:24 PM PST by TexasGunLover
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To: Ronaldus Magnus III

Yeah.


27 posted on 11/21/2025 2:48:18 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Flaming Conservative











The 100MbPS is too slow to view videos online. It will be constant buffer.
I am usually running 5 different things on the net at the same time. It would grind to a halt.
And, that isn't even including torrenting.
28 posted on 11/21/2025 2:51:32 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: Bikkuri

Oh, btw, by ‘things’, I meant different PCs, tablets, and my phone.


29 posted on 11/21/2025 2:52:54 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: SmokingJoe

Yes, we do. We cannot do multiple conference calls, have 2 televisions and six kids gaming at the same time with one dish. There simply isn’t enough bandwidth. Ask me how I know.


30 posted on 11/21/2025 3:00:36 PM PST by The Unknown Republican
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To: SmokingJoe

By the way, Grok is full of it. It doesn’t have any of the important variables such as actual bandwidth usage, local network speed and congestion. As I mentioned, we are a congested area and get far less than Starlink’s best speeds. It’s bad enough here that they don’t offer any residential plans except the $120/month option. But yeah, listen to Grok that makes generalized responses to insufficient information/context. Ha!


31 posted on 11/21/2025 3:06:16 PM PST by The Unknown Republican
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To: SmokingJoe

I ordered three kits as backups for my fiber connection. One came today 2 more tomorrow.

You never know what might happen these days....

You can pay 50/mo for a 50gb/mo package and after the first month you can place the system on standby mode that costs 5/mo for old timey DSL speed of 500kbps. they say the slow speed is unlimited so whatever that’s worth.. I just want a backup system I can depend upon and these may be the right choice. if a load of idiots overuse the standby option they might curtail it, who knows

I remember old DSL speed, you can web surf, you can make phone calls and even video calls at modest res, watch youtubes at 360p or 480p if the wind is right..lol

You can upgrade service instantly to better packages so if you need more ooomph you can do it for a short time and go back to snail-speed on standby..

I just feel the need for redundant comms backup...
It’s interesting that they sent out the word to the owners of the really old round dish kits to drag them out of the closet and power them on so they can get a live update to allow them to continue to function with the newest system if ever it was needed to connect them....hmmm

They are giving these mini kits away to current subscribers... seems odd... hmmmm

In other countries they are giving the kits away I heard...hmmm

In some areas they send someone out and install a system on your roof for free no equipment or install cost....hmmmm

I had the thought that if something were to happen to the communications grid in the US it would shortly follow that the Starlink system would be called upon to provide communications using any possible means...

If such a situation occurred all the existing kits could be activated at the slow speed of 500kbps without overburdening the system too much.... basic emergency comms...

hmmmm


32 posted on 11/21/2025 3:09:17 PM PST by Bobalu (Are you one of the men who just wanted to be left alone?)
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To: The Unknown Republican
Answer depended on the question I asked.
And I put in just the relevant part.
Of course there are plenty of other Starlink options.
I specifically asked about the $40/month option which was introduced just this month.
33 posted on 11/21/2025 3:10:47 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: BipolarBob

Do you have hotspot capability with the phone?


34 posted on 11/21/2025 3:11:52 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: SmokingJoe

Out in the country, only DSL or 5G.

Have T-Mobile WIFI 5G Bridge (hot spot) for an amazing $50/mo. and it’s blazing. Always almost 100mbps and sometimes 500mbps!

For a country rural home that was DSL, this is a dream.

100mbps was T-1 speed when I was VP of an internet company 25 years ago....


35 posted on 11/21/2025 3:12:05 PM PST by Arlis
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To: SmokingJoe

Then you didn’t ask the question with enough specificity to prove your point that 10+ people don’t require 2+ dishes. It is entirely possible that multiple dishes are required for 10+ people and Starlink forums highlight that I’m not the only one.


36 posted on 11/21/2025 3:14:34 PM PST by The Unknown Republican
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To: SmokingJoe

I was going to switch to Starlink but here in Dallas it is a “High Demand” area.

The deal they are offering everyone for 49.00 to start and the usual monthly... is $900.00 for me to JUST to get the equipment to the front door.

They are also sending out installers for the 49.00 deal.

When I saw how much they wanted from me ($900.00) it became clear that they are financing the 49.00 deal with all the money from the “High Demand” folks ($900.00).

I sent an email about it, got a “sorry, it’s policy.”

I replied that communism really is NOT the way to go and a LOT of folks will hear about this.

...no answer...

Why am I just totally not surprised?

.


37 posted on 11/21/2025 3:16:59 PM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: ConservativeMind

I don’t know. I’m not tech savvy. I’ll just make do until some utility steps up to the plate. Thanks anyway.


38 posted on 11/21/2025 3:29:22 PM PST by BipolarBob (These violent delights have violent ends.)
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To: Bikkuri
I am in a rural area, have had spectrum(before charter)for decades. Was usually able to get promo rate after mine expired...went on like that for years, until bankruptcy/spectrum, then they got crappy about promos for existing customers.

Year ago I was looking at options, told spectrum of such, and they offered 100MB service(downgrade from what I had) for $19.99/month for 1 year, $29.99 for 2nd year. I have about 6 security cams, phone, tablet, 1 or 2 computers, 2 alexa's...occasionally get small delays/pauses but overall not bad.

I do not use/pay for any of the streaming services...pretty much exclusive YouTube content.

39 posted on 11/21/2025 3:39:37 PM PST by RckyRaCoCo (there are demons out there, and they look like people)
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To: SmokingJoe

I have starlink in Alaska. Love it!


40 posted on 11/21/2025 3:39:50 PM PST by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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