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Helloooooo - The USA already is in a civil war, and already is insolvent.
Freerepublic ^ | November 17, 2025 | AAABEST

Posted on 11/17/2025 7:01:05 AM PST by AAABEST

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To: dpetty121263

“You are right I made a mistake we can just print our way out of debt or we can just go digital with the Federal control how you spend your money and just make all that debt disappear...”

The $39 trillion won’t be all that disappears, or becomes a pile of rubble.


41 posted on 11/17/2025 8:24:00 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: AAABEST
There's a lot of anxiety about the direction of our country, and it's pretty clear that one side is not taking us into a brighter future, but I think we are far from a Civil War, and really unlikely to ever see a shooting war.

More likely, we are watching a slow collapse, based primarily on our inability to function in a financially responsible way. But the end game is likely still far in the future. We've been able to stay afloat long after many said our debt was unsustainable. There were warnings when we hit $10 trillion in debt, and now we're on our way to $40 trillion. Yet, our economy is on course to grow about 3% this year.

Social media plays a major role in highlighting our differences and problems on a national level. But there is a great deal of wealth and stability throughout the US.

As long as there is enough capital to keep the private sector moving, the national debt is troublesome, but not affecting economic growth. The danger points will be if there is a default on interest payments or a substantial printing of money which leads to high inflation.

42 posted on 11/17/2025 8:28:25 AM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: dpetty121263

“You are right I made a mistake we can just print our way out of debt or we can just go digital with the Federal control how you spend your money and just make all that debt disappear...”

Dear Former American Joint Venture Partner:

These US government bonds were purchased at a value equal as we can determine to your former investment.

We sincerely hope that another “American” equal to Alexander Hamilton will pay an honest amount for them.

The PRC American Debt Equalization Committee


43 posted on 11/17/2025 8:30:03 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

“there is a great deal of wealth”

Park Slope, Brooklyn Heights, Fort Greene, Upper East Side, Upper West Side

~3,240,000 square feet of brown stone

~$25 million, total


44 posted on 11/17/2025 8:33:42 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Fury
I was actually trying to condense/simplify how fed.gov defines the three phases of war. Textbook, even common knowledge among intel communities, and all over Google. We are far past the initial phase of "Routine Peaceful Competition."

But.... since you're triggered and can't Google,here's a 17 page .pdf from the CIA that you won't bother reading.

45 posted on 11/17/2025 8:43:19 AM PST by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: Brian Griffin
Won't funds from tariffs be soon available to repay the debt?(I thought that was part of Trump's plan),rather than sending everyone 2k bucks...
46 posted on 11/17/2025 8:46:13 AM PST by skinny old man (Still lurking and posting after all these years(27 yrs ?)(more ?)(seems like more...))
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To: Brian Griffin

The US has plenty of assets it could sell to cover its liabilities.

What do you think the Grand Canyon would sell for? Or Yosemite?


47 posted on 11/17/2025 8:55:31 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: SmokingJoe; Vermont Lt; Fury; All
For those who don't or can't understand the OP, here is a GREAT synopsis in video form. I think most will find it very compelling.

Intel analyst's take on civil war.

The presenter, like me, was Army, except he was an intel analyst, I was infantry. Also like me, he spent significant time as an IC after ETSing... seemingly for the same client.

He's engaging and very good at what he does. i.e. a pro.

None of the original post above is conjecture, it's craft from military and governmental manuals written by those who make it a science It's real and nobody is making shit up.

48 posted on 11/17/2025 9:01:54 AM PST by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: AAABEST

Great summary, and the left started it.


49 posted on 11/17/2025 9:15:27 AM PST by cowboyusa ( YESHUA I S KING OF AMERICA AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: dpetty121263

We have a huge net worth as a country due to our natural resources, production capability and land. We are also the cleanest shirt in the dirty laundry of countries of any size.


50 posted on 11/17/2025 9:18:30 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Annnd....TRUMP IS RIGHT AGAIN.)
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To: Brian Griffin

Well not sure you are aware but the Fed has already rolled out the Dollar replacement called Fedcoin this year.


51 posted on 11/17/2025 9:36:16 AM PST by dpetty121263
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To: dpetty121263
“ 160 trillion in unfunded off the books debt and 39 trillion on the books debt....Yeah we are busted flat broke and the US Taxpayer is all tapped out.”

This can’t be sustained indefinitely and when the house of cards falls it will be the greatest disaster in history for the whole world. And the far left wants this. They think when the hard crash comes they will be able finally create their communist utopia out of the ashes. In reality it will be Mad Max time.

52 posted on 11/17/2025 9:50:01 AM PST by circlecity
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To: DownInFlames

“This country will never balance the budget. “

I pretty much agree. Even if we did balance the budget for a year or so it would be a temporary win. Of course I would grateful it we were able to do that.

Certainly — we will never eliminate the national debt. I can’t foresee that happening. We can’t even stop adding debt and begin paying it down much less eliminate it.

If we were ever able to get to a point where we stopped adding debt then we could entertain discussions about eliminating the debt.


53 posted on 11/17/2025 9:52:35 AM PST by plain talk
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To: circlecity

Well that is how they will bring about Communism to the United States as Communism never died it just morphed into Global Socialism\New World Order\whatever they want call.


54 posted on 11/17/2025 9:53:20 AM PST by dpetty121263
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To: dpetty121263

I think it’s more likely to bring about dictatorship throughout the world as the only way to restore order. Whether these dictatorships resemble communism is unknown. But they will be based on pure power, not a written constitution.


55 posted on 11/17/2025 9:57:48 AM PST by circlecity
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To: plain talk

Not only will we not balance the budget, the yearly deficit will continue to grow at an exponential rate. Ultimately we won’t be able to pay interest. That could be the triggering event.


56 posted on 11/17/2025 10:00:31 AM PST by circlecity
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To: AAABEST

Each state is set up like an individual semi autonomous country. Most states are larger in population than most of the EU countries. It would be best if states either went independent or formed new countries of several states.


57 posted on 11/17/2025 10:04:39 AM PST by central_va (Xt I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: dljordan

States will secede before going over a fiscal cliff. Governors will become Presidents.


58 posted on 11/17/2025 10:06:43 AM PST by central_va (Xt I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Glad2bnuts

My God have we forgot we are a nation of 50 individual states? Governors are not going to sit on their hands and do nothing. Some of these posts amateurish and naive.

The next step is secession.


59 posted on 11/17/2025 10:10:53 AM PST by central_va (Xt I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

The next Civil War won’t be between States, it will be between neighborhoods.


60 posted on 11/17/2025 10:12:10 AM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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