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A belief right up there with “the holocaust never happened.”
The argument is that Netanyahu used the Qatar-> Hamas funding policy to keep West Bank and Gaza divided between factions supporting Palestinian Authority & Abbas from factions supporting Hamas.
And that this left the context ripe for October 7th.
I doubt if Israel created Hamas but the initial IDF reaction/handling of Oct. 7 has received a lot of criticism.
If a bird lands on those fences, the IDF knows it and the response was slow, for instance.
Netanyahu wanted to use divide & conquer against the PLO.
As a result of that policy, Netanyahu allowed Qatar to financially support Hamas.
Israel did not create Hamas but they've failed to crack down on Hamas because if PLO had remained in charge then Netanyahu would have no choice but to negotiate and proceed with the two-state solution.
Many thanks for this detail. Cheers!
Israel doesn’t allow food and water = “Genocide!!!”
Israel does allow food and water = “Collaborating with Hamas!!!”
I don’t think it’s that simple but it does seem like Israelis are stuck between a rock and a hard place when it comes to the leaders they’re able to elect. Netanyahu has lost a lot of good will but there are no good alternatives.
“ Israel doesn’t allow food and water = “Genocide!!!”
Israel does allow food and water = “Collaborating with Hamas!!!”
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That goes along with all of the other contradictory complaints about Jews:
They’re too Capitalist, but also invented Communism.
They’re rootless wanderers, but now too nationalistic now that they have a nation.
They’re holding themselves out as a separate people, while also complained about as too cosmopolitan and trying to assimilate and hide themselves.
I wish that the world would make up its f’ing mind.
Israel’s Benjamin Netanyahu is not viewed favorably by a majority of Americans, and his favorability has declined, particularly since late 2023.
Overall public opinion of Netanyahu has shifted to a majority having little or no confidence in him. A 2025 Gallup poll found that 52% view him unfavorably, while a July 2024 poll found 47% unfavorable to 33% favorable, according to Gallup.
There is a significant difference in opinion among Democrats. Only 13% of Democrats approve, with many more Democrats fearful of expressing an opinion.
Polls indicate a downward trend in confidence in Netanyahu, with a growing share of Americans having little or no confidence in him. This decline is largely attributed to his handling of the Israel-Hamas war, and talk of genocide has led to increased criticism and public concern.
Younger Americans are more likely to view Netanyahu unfavorably, Younger people tend to have less confidence in him. More and more Americans are losing confidence in Israel’s Benjamin Netanyahu.
About Mamdani cheerleader Libby Lenkinski:
She “says” she is an Israeli-American activist.
She is Vice President for Strategy at the New Israel Fund (NIF).
The NIF engages in advocacy and is associated with a “joint lobbyist” in some contexts.
Libby Lenkinski has not registered as a lobbyist and
could be directly lobbying the US government sub rosa.
Her work appears to focus on
<><>strategy, cultural initiatives, and public commentary,
<><>related to ultra liberal “progressive politics”
<><> and Israeli issues.......while claiming to be an “American.”
Read it and weep.
A NY Jew tells why she’s voting for Mamdani
Unfortunately for Americans, they’re the very same ones controlling US policy
Forward.com ^ | November 02, 2025 | Libby Lenkinski
Posted on 11/3/2025, 10:09:45 PM by Red Badger
He’s shown up for my Jewish community in profoundly meaningful ways On Kol Nidrei, the evening service that begins Yom Kippur, I found myself at synagogue with Zohran Mamdani. Lab/Shul in Manhattan isn’t your typical synagogue; it’s a laboratory for belonging, where ancient liturgy meets radical inclusion. The service was led by my rabbi, Amichai Lau-Lavie — an Israeli who knows how to fill the room with both grief and hope.
Mamdani sat in the front row, with Rep. Jerry Nadler and Comptroller Brad Lander. As Lau-Lavie welcomed them to the space, Nadler and Lander were greeted with respectful applause. But when Mamdani’s name was spoken something electric ripped through the room. The applause didn’t just rise; it roared.
It was long, sustained, defiant, joyful. For me, that welcome of Mamdani — a Muslim and openly leftist candidate — on the holiest night of the Jewish year wasn’t symbolic. It was spiritual. It was the sound of a community saying: We are not afraid. And I wasn’t either. I felt safe. Seen. At home.
“My commitment is to make every New Yorker feel safe — Jews included — through policy grounded in equality, not fear,” Mamdani said earlier this year, as reported in The Guardian. That night, in the sanctuary, those words felt real. A few days later came another night I’ll never forget — the Israelis for Peace vigil marking two years since the Hamas attack of Oct. 7, 2023. Hundreds gathered — Israelis, Palestinians, Jews, Arabs, Americans — huddled together on folding chairs in Union Square in chilly weather, under an open sky. As part of a wide-ranging lineup, from the stage, I read a message from Liat Atzili, whose husband Aviv was killed that day; a short, piercing story by Etgar Keret; and a poem by Mahmoud Darwish that hung in the air like a spell.
And there was Mamdani again, sitting quietly in the front row next to Lander. He didn’t take the microphone. He didn’t try to center the event on himself. He was just listening. Bearing witness. His presence wasn’t performative. It was pastoral. In a city that so often divides its grief by identity, he crossed the invisible line and simply showed up. That’s when it hit me: This is what safety looks like. Not fences or slogans, not solidarity-as-branding — but the radical act of standing with people in pain, without needing to own or edit it.
A recent poll showed that 43% of Jewish New Yorkers plan to support Mamdani — and among those under 44, that number climbs to 67%. That data tells me what I felt that night wasn’t isolated. It’s a generational shift: Younger Jews — and Israelis like me — no longer see solidarity with Palestinians as a threat, but as a responsibility.
Because despite what the right-wing Israeli government and media want us to believe, we — Jews, Israelis, people who still believe in equality — are not in danger from Zohran Mamdani because he is critical of Israel. We’re endangered, instead, by the machinery of fear that tries to convince us that justice is a threat, that empathy is betrayal, that solidarity is naïve.
So let’s ask honestly: What is so terrifying about Zohran Mamdani? That he condemns Israel’s treatment of the Palestinian people? That he grieved — publicly and unapologetically — over the catastrophe in Gaza? That he refuses to conflate the safety of American Jews with unquestioned support for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu?
For me, as an Israeli-American who is committed enough to Israel to fight endlessly for it to be just and equal, that’s not frightening — it’s hopeful. Having mayors and public leaders who refuse to give Kahanists or corrupt war criminals a free pass is good for Jews.
That’s Jewish struggle too.
Pretty much sums it up.
Key points regarding Jews influencing US policy:
<><>Lobbying Efforts: Pro-Israel lobbying groups, such as the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), are widely considered to be among the most influential single-issue lobbying organizations in the U.S.
<><>Multiple Jewish lobbies utilize plentiful financial resources (that some suggest are foreign aid tax dollars), to support candidates and influence legislation related to US-Israel relations and MidEast policy.
<><>Within the American Jewish community, a majority generally identify as liberal and Democratic. There are numerous Jewish organizations advocating for a variety of stances on US policy towards Israel, including those that are highly critical of the Israeli government’s actions, demonstrating that no single “Jewish lobby” speaks for the entire community.
<><>Academic studies acknowledge the significant and effective influence of the pro-Israel lobby on specific U.S. foreign policy issues, particularly concerning US taxpayers funding of Israel and who expend large campaign contributions too US candidates to advance their causes.
<><>Jewish “Experts” on antisemitism insist that accusations of “Jewish control” of media, banks, and government oversimplify complex political processes and are employed to decrease the involvement of Jewish citizens in public life.
<><>Specific pro-Israel lobbying groups have demonstrable influence on U.S. policy regarding the Middle East. That “Jews” as a collective group secretly control the US government is always termed by Jews as an “antisemitic conspiracy theory” in the vain hope that labeling critics anti-semites might effectively silence critics.
Jews are considered too few in number for polling; because they make up a small percentage of the US population, standard national polls often use extraordinary methods to ensure adequate representation which makes it appear Jews are numerous when Congressional funding issues loom.
Here is how polling on the Jewish population works:
Overall Population Size: The total U.S. Jewish population is insignificant .......a small fraction of the overall U.S. population.......it is too small a number to study with proper methodology.
Specialized Polling: Major research organizations, such as the American Jewish Population Project at Brandeis University, conduct targeted surveys specifically to analyze Jewish Americans’ views and demographics.
Methodology: To get statistically significant results for a smaller demographic like Jews, pollsters use techniques like:
Oversampling: Including using a larger number of Jewish individuals in a survey sample than would occur by pure random chance, and then weighting the results back to their correct proportion in the overall population for national estimates.
Targeted Sampling: Using commercial lists or focusing on geographic areas (such as specific counties in New York, Florida, or Pennsylvania) where large Jewish populations reside to reach potential respondents.
Political Significance: The Jewish vote is considered insignificant in U.S. politics, particularly in swing states or districts with unseemly high Jewish populations, but Jews high voter registration and turnout rates and voting patterns leaning Democratic, have nuances across different Jewish subgroups, making their vote an area of analysis for funding and political strategies.
While they are a tiny minority group, the Jewish population is routinely polled using extraordinary statistical methods to get their opinions and voting behavior
These people need their heads examined.
Wonderful what sixty decades of creeping communism, into our indoctrination stations/public schools, that WE’VE allowed, has ushered in.
:-(
“Netanyahu wanted to use divide & conquer against the PLO.”
This is the exact claim that the article is disputing. The article says that while Israel allowed money in from Qatar, it was part of specifically negotiated cease fire agreements, not part of a grand strategy. The divide and conquer claim originates from a quote from a dubious left wing source. Not sure what the truth is, but I think the article raises reasons to be skeptical. See below.
“’Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,’ he told a meeting of his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. ‘This is part of our strategy—to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.’”
The actual source is supposedly the biography of Haim Ramon, who had not served in the government since 2009, and certainly not in the Likud.
Ramon, a leftist politician, had been convicted of sexual harassment, partially ending his political career. He certainly had not been a Likud member and was not attending any such meetings, raising serious credibility issues regarding the quote.
Israel is a net conservative nation because the conservatives reproduce and the liberals abstain, are gay or abort.
Netanyahu is the leader of the right.
The left hates his guts.
That’s pretty much the whole story, imho.
Israelis booed any mention of Netanyahu during Jared Kushner or Steve Witkoff’s speeches in Hostages Square following the ceasefire last month.
But they cheered both envoys as well as any mentions of President Trump.
Tucker Carlson being “antisemitic” is a subject of significant debate and controversy, particularly among Jewish groups, who are financed by foreign aid tax dollars, and by multiple Jewish lobbies demanding more and more US foreign aid tax dollars.
Critics who are Jewish point to specific actions and rhetoric as evidence of antisemitism, while Kirk’s supporters argue he is simply questioning U.S. foreign policy and that Jewish criticism is a “deflection” tactic to maximize US foreign aid.
In September 2025, during a memorial service for Charlie Kirk, Carlson made comments that Jewish lobbies, and aid-financed Israeli media, described as “promoting” antisemitic conspiracy theories.
Comparison of Kirk’s death to the “crucifixion of Jesus” and depiction of individuals plotting to silence Jesus was criticized as invoking harmful blood libel tropes and modern Israeli stereotypes.......centering on Bible teachings that Jews killed the Jesus who came to save them b/c he was an itinerant carpenter and not the royal figure the Jews demanded.
The unpopular Anti-Defamation League (ADL) lobby and other Jewish organizations lobbying vigorously for billions in tax dollars for Israel have, for financial reasons, condemned Carlson, citing instances of language and conspiracy theories that are antisemitic or white supremacist tropes.
Popular examples of “antisemitism” among Jews include Christians blaming Jewish mega-financier George Soros for various societal problems and questioning the patriotism of those who question U.S. support for Israel, citing Jewish dual loyalty.
Carlson and his defenders often frame his questioning of American support for Israel as legitimate foreign policy debate, arguing that labeling such inquiries as “antisemitism” is an attempt to silence valid Christian criticism.
They contend that questioning U.S. government dealings with any foreign country, including Israel, does not inherently make one an anti-semite.......and is actually a responsibility of elected officials.
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