Posted on 11/04/2025 3:09:09 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
Reports are this is a UPS plane that caught fire upon takeoff that then crashed at the end of the runway.
(Excerpt) Read more at wave3.com ...
Many people use their phones as dash cams.
Well given my initial comment in that entire discussion chain on the subject was me saying "gallons" was incorrect and the correct term was "pounds" I'm not sure how it makes sense for you to say that. I then went on to discuss how the misspeaking was understandable as most people don't commonly refer to fuel by weight but by volume (hence the swapping of the term pounds to gallons) to which you then jumped in midstream not understanding the context of the discussion and hurling unprovoked personal insults when it was you who did not know what you were talking about.
Well from you that’s actually a compliment. I’ll take it.
ok, not wishing to have an ‘argument’, but you are still wrong.
Fuel is NOT more commonly referred to by “volume(gallons)” than by weight IN AVIATION which is what this about.
Thank you for calming it down.
But no...that wasn't the context of the remarks I was making that you responded to - the context in which I was saying that was in reference to why that person (and others who have been giving public information since the mayor) misspoke and said "gallons" and not "pounds" and how that error (which from the beginning I said was an error if you go back to my first comments in that chain) was understandable. It is absolutely correct most people refer to fuel in terms of volume and not weight...you know that as well as I do. The subject was *not* whether or not saying "gallons" was incorrect in terms of aviation but why the error was likely made by those like the mayor in their public comments.
You jumped in midstream not seeing the context and said I was "wrong" so then I came back confused and said "so are you saying gallons actually was correct?" because I had said from the beginning pounds was correct and saying "gallons" was a misspeaking on the part of those saying "gallons". Then a series of comments of us talking past each other because the context of our remarks to each other was not the same one. But I think we've got it right now. In terms of only aviation specifically, yes, you are absolutely right...but in terms of why a layman, politician, etc. may have said the wrong thing, the explanation that most people in their experiences with measuring fuel do so in terms of volume is correct and a reasonable explanation as to why they got their terms mixed up.
I guess you don’t understand addresses
and your now obsfuscation still doesn’t work
Oh, come on. It was clearly posted here:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4350715/posts?page=44#44
The source was WLKY-TV in Louisville. Don’t tell me you didn’t know that.
Your fixation on this is ridiculous. Reporters, esp. local reporters, make these mistakes all the time. My Dad (also a tech person of sorts) griped about it vociferously back when he was interviewed. I still remember that and I was in (IIRC) 9th grade! Then it happened to me just after I got out of school: The lesson I learned for me specifically was to get a copy of the article to make corrections, B4 it was published, and in general, as here, to expect such mistakes. If necessary or useful, roll with it and politely ask for a correction.
As far as I’m concerned, this matter of lbs. vs. gallons is resolved and closed. Now, like I said, how about posting something that actually contributes to discussion of this accident. Eh?
Speaking of new tech as it applies to disasters, the drone imagery of the damage path, at night, really brings the scale of the damage path vividly into my mind. All that fire panned back and forth is kinda jaw-dropping. Another thank goodness is that this didn’t happen on a day with 30 mph dry wind gusts!
You didn’t answer the question I asked in 122 about your misdirect, lbs. v gallons long time ago and NOTHING to do with my post to WR so STFU
Update here:
Gov. Beshear has confirmed 7 fatalities, 4 apparently on the ground. It looks like the early reports of deadhead passengers were wrong - hopefully so.
The fires are “mostly contained” and shelter-in-place directives have been narrowed. However, all schools in Jefferson County are closed for tomorrow and UPS-Louisville is shut down for tomorrow (a pretty big deal).
More at the link...
Why so many are arguing with your very true statement, I don't understand. I have never heard anyone refer to fuel in terms of weight, only in gallons. Of course I don't hang around airports either.
You didn't ask ANYTHING in post 122. That was MY post. Try less alcohol, sweetie.
‘k btch , ‘bout your 122
Some people would rather argue for the heck of it than bother to do the work to find and post useful information.
Speaking of which, “blancolirio” is generally a good “no nonsense” resource when these incidents happen. His early report was very early, so he didn’t have much info., but, I expect that will change tomorrow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3lXl9yfISM
(Link to his early report / channel.)
I guess the flaming engine on the left wing had nothing to do with it
“Captain Steve” (Airline Pilot YouTuber) has a good early summary...early indication that the left (No. 1) engine may have been left on the runway...torn fuel & hydraulic lines, major fire and loss of lift on the left. Not enough right rudder or remaining thrust at gross TO weight after “V1” speed to save it...tragic...RIP crew:
https://youtu.be/U4q2ORhIQQc?si=HwlD2k4bKbf8eosC
You’re gonna do the don’t tell me ‘bout women in the military DEI thing (before it was mandated) aren’t you ?
That you worked for her doesn’t mean jackSchiff !
You are totally off base. My comment had nothing to do with DEI. She was a great supervisor, regardless of her gender. Pure and simple. Kapesh?
Aviation fuel in particular is referenced by weight since the volume changes based on temperature. For all of us living on the ground, the variation isn't much, but for aircraft going up to altitude, the temperature changes the volume significantly. Small aircraft can reference volume (gallons or liters) but any sizeable aircraft will reference weight (pounds or kilograms).
https://gultomaviation.org/2023/02/why-airliners-measure-their-fuel-in-pounds-while-small-ga-airplanes-measure-fuel-in-gallons/
Most individuals outside of aviation wouldn't know (or care) but a news outlet reporting aviation stories would be expected to get it right since the numbers were communicated to them by someone at the airport or the airline. Any "aviation expert" the media outlet calls upon should absolutely know the difference.
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