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NYT: Nick Fuentes Was Charlie Kirk’s Bitter Enemy. Now He’s Becoming His Successor
NYT ^ | Nov 3 | Michelle Goldberg

Posted on 11/04/2025 9:35:54 AM PST by RandFan

Charlie Kirk, the conservative influencer who was assassinated in September, and Nick Fuentes, the young Hitler-loving white nationalist at the center of a growing schism on the right, were bitter enemies.

Fuentes despised Kirk for his support of Israel, and, more broadly, for his efforts to marginalize Fuentes’s gleefully racist and fascist brand of politics. In 2019, seeking to expose Kirk as “anti-white” and a “fake patriot,” Fuentes organized his army of young fans — known as Groypers, after a variant on the alt-right Pepe the Frog meme — to flood events held by Kirk’s organization, Turning Point, and ask hostile questions. At one, they drove Donald Trump Jr. off the stage.

After Kirk was murdered, Fuentes, perhaps fearing he’d be blamed, disavowed violence. But he continued his attacks on Turning Point and accused Kirk’s widow, Erika, of being happy her husband was dead. “I am getting this vibe from her that she’s very fake,” he said.

Even as Fuentes defamed Kirk’s widow, powerful conservatives were engaged in a nationwide campaign to canonize Kirk and destroy progressives who maligned him.

Guest-hosting Kirk’s podcast, JD Vance urged listeners to report anyone celebrating Kirk’s death to their employers. In such an atmosphere, one might think that Fuentes’s stock on the right would have fallen. Instead, it’s risen higher than ever, revealing a seemingly unstoppable ratchet of radicalization on the right.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy
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To: RandFan

NOT A FREAKING CHANCE HE’S THE SUCCESSOR TO CHARLIE!


61 posted on 11/04/2025 11:06:24 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: cgbg
but he is hardly the monster that is portrayed on many threads here.

Except that he is. And you defend it:

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62 posted on 11/04/2025 11:07:04 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: RandFan

BS. The NYT is just trying to vilify the right..... again.


63 posted on 11/04/2025 11:09:03 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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To: Republican Wildcat

I thank you again, especially with that head’s up ab out Nick Freitas.


64 posted on 11/04/2025 11:10:02 AM PST by rlmorel (Factio Communistica Sinensis Delenda Est.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Who da heck is Nick Fuentes?

Some obnoxious a-hole who has found his 15 minutes, thanks to Tucker Carlson.
65 posted on 11/04/2025 11:12:29 AM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Kazan

LAT as well. Trying way too hard to make Fuentes the face of TPUSA.


66 posted on 11/04/2025 11:24:02 AM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: cgbg

Yes. You’re missing something.


67 posted on 11/04/2025 11:24:32 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (It's hard not to celebrate the fall of bad people. - Bongino)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

He will be painted as the indelible face of MAGA. Day in and day out, prepare for nothing but his clips. The democrats are desperate. Hearing the clips of what Ben Shapiro played the other day, Fuentes is the perfect democrat plant. He says EVERYTHING the media whores believe about MAGA. He hates Jews, Blacks, “browns,” has called for his fans to kill his perceived enemies. He’s pretty pathetic but a perfect foil and the democrats are going to pound his name in to every brain they can. Sure the democrats can call for the murder of republican babies, celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk and attempted assassination Donald Trump. BUT HEY. There’s some jerk with a podcast who days what democrats say on a daily basis.


68 posted on 11/04/2025 11:25:52 AM PST by Organic Panic ('Was I molested. I think so' - Ashley Biden in response to her father joining her in the shower.)
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To: RandFan

If the Jews control everything and the media and manipulate everything and everyone for the sake of “The JOOOS.”

Does this mean this Fuentes guy is a Jewish golem? He better live up to his own standards.


69 posted on 11/04/2025 11:27:00 AM PST by Organic Panic ('Was I molested. I think so' - Ashley Biden in response to her father joining her in the shower.)
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To: rlmorel

The person above who is defending Fuentes believes there is “much to be admired” about him and constantly praises him as “brilliant and articulate” and we “all say things we shouldn’t have said” - that final statement is true - but I don’t think saying things such as praising Hitler is among those things “we have all said.” And certainly we should not look to people who say and continue to say those things unrepentantly are who we are to look to admirably as current and future leaders.


70 posted on 11/04/2025 11:27:01 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: MayflowerMadam

Well—we can all hope that Turning Point hires you as a consultant to figure out these things.

Lol.


71 posted on 11/04/2025 11:28:03 AM PST by cgbg ("The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it.")
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Fuentes#Relationship_with_Kanye_West

On November 28, 2022, political commentator Tim Pool interviewed West, Fuentes, and Yiannopoulos regarding West’s campaign.[138] Pool pressed West and Fuentes with an article posted by Mike Pence stating that Trump was wrong for allowing anti-Semitic people to eat with him at dinner, referencing the two’s dinner with Trump 6 days earlier, and demanded that the two apologize, which they refused to do, before eventually walking off during the interview.[139] In a December interview with Alex Jones, the two garnered significant controversy after West declared that he “loves” Adolf Hitler and denies the Holocaust. Fuentes, while not directly commenting on West’s remarks, shared his agreement with West’s views throughout the interview.[140] On December 5, 2022, Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes interviewed West alongside Fuentes, with the duo asserting that Hitler’s reputation was “crafted by Jews.” West also endorsed Fuentes’ beliefs by stating that society needed to be structured around a Christian government, and that media in the United States needed to be controlled by Christians.[141]

Following controversies regarding Fuentes’ supposed involvement in allegations based around another Kanye supporter, Ali Alexander, West fired Fuentes and Alexander from his campaign with the help of Yiannopoulos, who had been rehired after initially leaving Ye’s team following his comments in the Jones and McInnes interviews.[142][143]

2025 reunion
Upon West’s release of the controversial song “Heil Hitler”, which Fuentes witnessed the production of during a Kick stream hosted by Sneako and producer Digital Nas in April, he stated that the song would become the “song of the summer,” before remarking, “Imagine 50,000 people in a stadium on their feet singing every word. This is where it’s going.”[144]


72 posted on 11/04/2025 11:43:55 AM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: x

True, it is easy to see what the NYT is doing here.


73 posted on 11/04/2025 11:47:35 AM PST by dforest
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To: Nextrush

Loomer always wants to claim Trump adoration. That said, the minute she hears something that he says or does varies from her view, she attacks. I laugh when that happens because people jump on her hypocrisy like white on rice.


74 posted on 11/04/2025 11:51:26 AM PST by dforest
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To: Texas Eagle

That’s right!


75 posted on 11/04/2025 11:57:08 AM PST by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: Republican Wildcat

I am not inclined to take nearly anyone at their word these days, although...I do have a few that I might well.

I was appalled at the things said about Charlie Kirk, and I watched, in the first week or so after his death, probably 6-12 hours of video of him, and it is clear those people slandering him never actually watched him.

I won’t put myself in that situation. But that is the good thing about FR, plenty of people are willing to provide links and attributions to original, unedited content..:)


76 posted on 11/04/2025 12:59:44 PM PST by rlmorel (Factio Communistica Sinensis Delenda Est.)
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To: dforest

Who does she ultimately work for a very legit question I presume a fanatical follower of Netanyahu but I’m open to other ideas.


77 posted on 11/04/2025 1:41:39 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER REV; NIEMOLLER)
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To: rlmorel

Makes perfect sense. Given the lies and slander hurled toward Charlie Kirk, when someone for whom the descriptions are actually accurate comes along, it makes people inclined to not believe it. That’s the danger of constantly and false accusing people of things that isn’t true...when it actually turns out to be true, people may not believe it.

That individual doesn’t even deny the quotes about Hitler and rape weren’t authentic but claims we all do that, and even mocked me and PJ “I admire your virtue” when we had the nerve to claim that no, most of us have not made any remarks even similar to that.


78 posted on 11/04/2025 2:52:55 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: RandFan

I find it interesting that you post many provacative threads, but always dodge responsibility. Your thread asserts that Fuentes is inheriting his estate, but Fuentes is the Charlie Kirk antithesis.

Fuentes argues (vehemently) but Charlie discusses.

You fall on the side of Fuentes. I pity you.


79 posted on 11/04/2025 2:59:29 PM PST by MortMan (Charter member of AAAAA - American Association Against Alliteration Abuse)
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To: Texas Eagle

Shelley, Shelley, Shelley. This is tawdry - even for you.


80 posted on 11/04/2025 5:09:38 PM PST by sauropod
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