[CondoleezzaProtege]

[wasmv80]

Our United States of America, is a Chriistian nation without an official designation, nor recognition, of a Church of State such as Anglican or Episcopalian or Lutheran.

[mairdie]

I’ve never seen that Lincoln illustration. Truly wonderful.

[Governor Dinwiddie]

"Barrier"? There is no barrier. At the top of the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson recognized that we are endowed by God with our rights.

[Olog-hai]

So Mr. Zeitz is trying to say that Lincoln violated the Establishment Clause somehow? That’s what the headline implies.

Something kinda fey about that smile . . .

[KC Burke]

Zeits lacks historical knowledge.

[EnderWiggin1970]

There is no barrier between church and state. That’s a personal doctrine atheists invented to make their religion the state religion of the country, and they’ve been trying to impose it on the rest of us ever since. So even when a Christian president is elected, they browbeat the president with this falsehood and demand that he rule just as if he were an atheist. They’ve been very successful in portraying this as “neutrality” when it is anything but.

[ansel12]

The wall was around the government, it wasn’t a wall around the Christian faith, the move moved the wall to surround the Christian faith and put the government in charge of limiting, restraining, and even overcoming it.

[spintreebob]

The Headline “Church and State” is inconsisent with the text which is “Personal actions based on personal faith.”

The Headline sets up a false premise for the reality of what happened. There is a big difference between the Catholic Church or Nation Council of Churches having influence in the government and individual Bhuddists, Hindus, Catholics, Jews, Evangelicals and aetheists using their personal “religion” to guide their actions in government.

[daniel1212]

Thanks. The best article Politico ever carried. From LINCOLN’S GOD by Joshua Zeitz, published by Viking,