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Over 1,150 Israeli soldiers killed since October 7, 2023
Nova Italy ^ | Oct 2025

Posted on 10/10/2025 1:30:06 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

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To: Ancesthntr

While I have, that knowledge predates me and VDH.


21 posted on 10/11/2025 8:15:43 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: jjotto
Note: About 15% of Israelis identify themselves as religious Zionist (’dati’).

I read the whole article you posted carefully, but I didn't see that surprising statistic in it. Do you have a reference for that? That would be remarkable if true.

22 posted on 10/11/2025 8:46:58 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

Religious = ‘dati’

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-821800

...Among the respondents, secular individuals make up the largest portion of the population (43.5%). They are followed by non-religious traditionalists (18.9%), religious traditionalists (13%), religious (12.5%), and lastly, ultra-Orthodox (11.3%)...


23 posted on 10/11/2025 9:17:46 AM PDT by jjotto ("...saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, And I hated Esau...")
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To: jjotto
That's the second article you have posted that has nothing to do with your crazy statistic in Post #4.

Here is a correction from a different article from the same newspaper source you referenced:

The Jerusalem Post: 90% of Israeli Jews call themselves Zionists

Whomever qualifies or doesn't qualify as "religious" in Israel is just semantics.

24 posted on 10/11/2025 12:39:41 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

Dati Leumi ‘religious nationalist’ - has a specific meaning in Israel.


25 posted on 10/11/2025 12:44:17 PM PDT by jjotto ("...saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, And I hated Esau...")
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To: jjotto

So nearly 100% of religious Israeli’s are Zionists, but only about 15% of Israelis are religious. If the Zionist claim on the land is merely racial and not religious, then it is difficult to see any reason why Abraham’s son Isaac’s Jewish descendants have any more claim on the land than Abraham’s son Ishmael’s Muslim descendants.


26 posted on 10/11/2025 3:17:35 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

The numbers and the terms are tricky. “Religious Zionist” is a particular category.

Wikipedia says, “Religious Zionism (Hebrew: צִיּוֹנוּת דָּתִית, romanized: Tziyonut Datit) is a religious denomination that views Zionism as a fundamental component of Orthodox Judaism.”

So you can be religious and a Zionist without being a “religious Zionist” if you aren’t Orthodox or don’t think of Zionism as a fundamental part of your religion.


27 posted on 10/11/2025 3:33:20 PM PDT by x
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Thank you, that (sort of) helps! The political motivations and the religious identities in Israel seem to be intermingled in a unique way.


28 posted on 10/11/2025 4:03:58 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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